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lost_in_life_34 t1_ja8g6uk wrote

there is a happy medium somewhere the school officials actually take action on the bullies

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Shishkebarbarian t1_ja8klio wrote

> actually take action on the bullies

this right here. if school enforcement is strong and willful, shit won't spiral out of control like this were you're talking criminal felony charges on a bunch of idiot 14 year olds.

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Ok-Company8510 t1_ja8nsey wrote

I wish we could live in a world where everything was taught and not forced.

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Ok-Company8510 t1_ja8njgn wrote

Maybe a class on how to deal with bullies somewhere between calculus and ww2?

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The_Healed t1_ja8t3w4 wrote

Maybe a class where bullies get the same shit they do, done to them. Testicle for an eye. Or however it goes

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Ok-Company8510 t1_ja8wgsn wrote

Tell em to pick themselves up by the bootstraps while they're at it.

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The_Healed t1_ja8wxss wrote

And go up the hill both ways in neck deep snow wearing only rags?

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BeamStop23 t1_ja93bm7 wrote

A school is an institute of learning. Outside of suspending or expelling students, that's the extent of there reach. Anything else is left to the criminal justice system. You are more than welcome to provide what else can be done besides removing the student that the school can do legally.

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beltalowda_oye t1_ja85iuf wrote

I mean... have you talked to anyone outside of reddit? It's not just reddit. A lot of people want the kids responsible for this hazing punished. And they're not wrong. Whether what the punishment is? That's where things get a bit tricky and people disagree.

Reddit also has gen z to boomers so depending on who youre talking to, you're gonna get completely differing opinions for certain topics.

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beltalowda_oye t1_ja8pgrc wrote

Imo you need to be specific. As much as I want to be on the same page, I can't read your mind or preemptively know what you believe is something everyone should already know.

Let's review what you're talking about case by case. Which cases are we talking about and which punishments are the progressives? Then let's review the cases that highlight that double standard and see if there's a deeper context or indeed a bias in the way we approach judicial system. It should come as a surprise to no one that our justice system is not perfect and even the working parts can often shit the bed. But in this particular case is it wrong? I don't think so.

Who remembers Tyler Clementi? Pepperidge farm remembers.

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charleswinesap t1_ja8fbri wrote

Since you’re basing your view on this story of specific redditors you yourself dealt with your point can only be true.

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Shishkebarbarian t1_ja8kf7e wrote

i think anyone who spent any time on reddit reading social and criminal news stories can pick up on the reddit bias quite easily. butthurt genZs bitter at their country cause they can't get ahead. not saying some of the criticisms aren't valid, just that there is a heavy kumbaya bias

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beltalowda_oye t1_ja8qapv wrote

Yeah I mean it's honestly just a social media platform. It reflects what people are saying and I honestly do feel like sometimes I'm talking to teens and angry brats but I've also talked to much older crowd on reddit. Regardless of how we might feel, I think the younger generations opinion on this matter because they're the ones living through it now or just went through it. The experience is fresher.

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charleswinesap t1_ja8mga7 wrote

Reddits not real, nor are we, chill

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Shishkebarbarian t1_ja8ncp9 wrote

i didn't mean to come off as angry or otherwise perturbed. like you said, it's reddit, it's just a forum for shooting shit with others.

i just wanted to add that the bias is clear and evident and isn't OP's case of only dealing with certain people

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charleswinesap t1_ja8nphq wrote

Ah, true, ha thanks for the explanation I misunderstood.

Yeah OP was rich. I love stories that go I experienced this therefore this is happening. Well yes sir. Totally unfalsifiable, dudes go to war on beliefs like this, same as always i guess

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[deleted] t1_ja8qxuw wrote

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treadwells_gone t1_ja8uuge wrote

Yeah but its silly to suggest there isn't a heavily prevailing mindset among the users.

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[deleted] t1_ja90v5g wrote

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uplandsrep t1_jab1p4j wrote

Because it makes the people who want justice reform and by extension the whole effort, sound like it's strictly a flight of fancy, a passing fad, or just outright hypocritical.

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paleo2002 t1_ja8i4qu wrote

If our schools and healthcare system looked like Norway's, then we wouldn't have to worry about what style of prison system to put our children into.

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[deleted] t1_ja8p4cv wrote

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paleo2002 t1_ja8rnvv wrote

Didn't say anything about money. But . . .

In 2022, NJ spent $29.8 billion on K-12 schooling.

The most recent data I could get for Norway was 2020. They spent about 10% of their GDP on education. This amounts to about $36 billion.

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Jbach57 t1_ja8vs3m wrote

So a single state in the USA almost spent as much in education as the entire country of Norway?

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grand_speckle t1_ja8zo7i wrote

Yeah but in fairness this single state’s population nearly doubles Norway’s population

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iJayZen t1_ja9n8ck wrote

Thank education unions for this.

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internet-is-a-lie t1_ja8i6qi wrote

I’m not going to pretend I know what the appropriate punishment should be, but yeah, people acting like these girls should get life in prison is kind of crazy.

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