weaselpoopcoffee1 t1_jdn4xza wrote
It irks me as well but I try to think of it from another perspective. The beaches are guarded and cleaned daily during the summer season. I kinda like that. The other thing is, why should taxpayers who never get to the beach have to pay (via taxes) for a beach they don't use? It kind of makes sense to only charge the actual users of the beach. Feel free to disagree.
Alter_ego_cohort t1_jdnyxhl wrote
You do realize how much crap you pay for through taxes that you never get to use, right??
BrothelWaffles t1_jdnds33 wrote
Literally the only sensible comment in here so far. Apparently everyone just thinks the beaches magically maintain themselves.
Zaknoid t1_jdngw40 wrote
Yet, there's states that have free beaches and still have them maintained and have lifeguards so they magically found a way to do it.
HiggetyFlough t1_jdnllro wrote
Well I assume the magic way is more taxes
RhymeGrime t1_jdnomlp wrote
Florida has less taxes and all beaches are free. Just saying.
flyingcircusdog t1_jdocu3c wrote
But the true cost is living in Florida.
Psirocking t1_jdo8tsz wrote
There’s a decent argument I’ve heard.
People don’t drive to Florida beaches from out of state and then go home the same day, maybe spending a few bucks on parking and food like they do here. People there spend hundreds on hotels and do a whole vacation there. If NJ didn’t charge for beaches you’d have people from PA and NY who would use the beaches here and basically contribute nothing in revenue.
Big_lt t1_jdor7er wrote
Simple, beaches are free if you show a valid NJ drivers license. All others pay the beech fee
ItllMakeYouStronger t1_jdqp4wm wrote
What about children and people who do not drive?
Big_lt t1_jdqssfm wrote
There are other state documents that can be used in place of drivers license.
Also, you don't need to drive to have a driver's lice se but it is the most common document.
HiggetyFlough t1_jdnq06w wrote
the argument would work better if Florida had comparable amount of taxes as we do and still had free beaches, instead they don't tax on a ton of stuff but still probably use property taxes on beach upkeep.
pantslesseconomist t1_jdnr49x wrote
I went to North Carolina last summer and the beach was "free" but there was no public parking for miles, so functionally it was private.
And there were lifeguards, but instead of on a stand, the guard was on an ATV patrolling several miles of beach. Hope she's close while you're drowning!
MOM_1_MORE_MINUTE t1_jdp5mf2 wrote
I mean ocean city cleans every night (or they did, havnt been in years) and don't have to pay. VA beach cleans don't have to pay. Been to a few in NC and SC and didn't pay. Either way you do you NJ!
Big_lt t1_jdor253 wrote
The cleaning point makes sense; however your other one does not
I don't have children, nor do I own a car yet I have my taxes pay for schools and roads. The reason you pay for them is it's beneficial to our state just like a beach is as it brings tourism from out of staters and a place for others to recover me tally by enjoying nature
weaselpoopcoffee1 t1_jdrk024 wrote
You buy goods and services and you get mail so yeah you indirectly use the roads. BTW most road maintenance is paid via gasoline taxes. Having good schools assures you can get a good buck if you sell your house so you get some of that back. In addition property taxes are deductible so again you get some of that back. Not saying it's perfect but I understand it.
financialanon t1_jdnt32k wrote
Guarded beaches are the worst.
They create very narrow swimming areas and prohibit you from swimming outside these areas.
They herd you in like cattle leaving vast parts of the beach unusable. And I have to pay for this privilege?
It feels so restrictive. Freedom in America is an illusion. You can't move without someone telling you what to do or giving you a ticket for violating some rule.
NJ has absolutely the most restrictive beaches in the country.
wubbels89 t1_jdnu2qr wrote
Yes god forbid there are trained professionals ready to help you in the event of an emergency in often dangerous environment. I don’t know what beaches you go to where they “herd” you into tiny loacations. The beach is huge. Spread out my dude.
financialanon t1_jdoe557 wrote
The swimming areas are roped off and small.
SailingSpark t1_jdnypsa wrote
I grew up in Ocean City, don't want to swim at a guarded beach? Nobody is forcing you to go to one. While 34th street is guarded, 33rd and 35th are not. The next guarded beach up would be 39th, which is why 40th is a informal surfing beach.
Way2trivial t1_jdo0n9y wrote
Not "informal"
https://theshoreblog.com/ocean-city-beach-information/
"Additionally, surfing is permitted on beaches south of 36th Street where lifeguard stands are 3 blocks apart. Surfing is permitted at all beaches either before or after lifeguards are on duty."
SailingSpark t1_jdo5fk1 wrote
that must be new, I moved out of Ocean City 25 years ago and hung up my board to take up sailing.
YawnTractor_1756 t1_jdnxi0d wrote
> Freedom in America is an illusion.
Freedom is an illusion!
Life is an illusion!
Nothing else matters! So close no matter how far....
GomezCups t1_jdox023 wrote
Manasquan and many other beaches have plenty of lifeguards that they do not restrict swimming areas
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