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8Deer-JaguarClaw t1_itwkeae wrote

> Name a more iconic duo.

Chicago and political scandals?

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sutisuc t1_itx120a wrote

I’d vote NY being worse than us as well.

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PirateForward8827 t1_itwoegy wrote

Unfortunately NJ is worse.

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sutisuc t1_itx0zuy wrote

Why do you think that?

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PirateForward8827 t1_itx80ge wrote

Lived in NJ over 50 years. I've known some politicians, and I've known some people that paid for favors and influence.

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sutisuc t1_iu0esk4 wrote

Eh “I lived somewhere” isn’t the best evidence because someone could just say that they lived in Illinois for fifty years and it’s worse than NJ. Definitely more people in government actually go to jail in Chicago/IL than they do in NJ so I’d definitely give the edge to them.

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PirateForward8827 t1_iu0ms8h wrote

That wasn't my only evidence. And the fact that more people in government go to jail in Chicago/IL than NJ isn't persuasive. Just because more get caught and convicted doesn't prove that there is more crime and corruption.

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sutisuc t1_iu0n5um wrote

What’s your other non anecdotal evidence? And sure but again you’re just speculating wildly in that case which isn’t particularly useful.

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PirateForward8827 t1_iu0o1qr wrote

NJ has more governmental units (county, cities, towns, villages, school districts, authorities, etc.) than IL. There is almost no contract granted in NJ, whether it be for construction, legal services, insurance, investment advice, etc. without some payoff or influence peddling.

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Duh-2020 t1_itx9i7z wrote

Cook county Illinois, the home of the truthful phrase.... Vote early, vote often....

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