h0w13 t1_iue6dka wrote on October 30, 2022 at 5:29 PM

Reply to comment by yuriydee in ‘The Hug’ changed American politics. How a Chris Christie-Barack Obama greeting signaled the death of civility. by Flashinglights0101

I respected the hell out of first term Christie. Second term Christie got lofty dreams and left us all in his wake. Lot of good those dreams got him.

Basedrum777 t1_iuf76k3 wrote on October 30, 2022 at 9:32 PM

Christie destroyed what was a good pension system in NJ.

leetnewb2 t1_iufg3fd wrote on October 30, 2022 at 10:34 PM

Pretty sure Christie also contributed more to the pension than all of his predecessors combined. Reality is complicated.

Basedrum777 t1_iufmvws wrote on October 30, 2022 at 11:22 PM

He also agreed to pay into the pension and then reneged bc he's a liar.

https://whyy.org/articles/christies-public-pension-legacy-broken-promises-no-effective-fixes/

https://www.nj.com/njv_tom_moran/2014/01/post_16.html

leetnewb2 t1_iuh3x5n wrote on October 31, 2022 at 8:14 AM

I understand that he didn't pay as much as he negotiated, but neither did his predecessors. On the other hand, he contributed more than all of his predecessors. Christie ran the state in one of the worst economic environments of the last century. The tax collections weren't there to make those payments.

I appreciate why pensioners have it out for Christie, but to say that HE destroyed the pension when it was left unfunded across some 7 governors before him seems somewhat misguided.

Rainbowrobb t1_iuhc2mf wrote on October 31, 2022 at 10:18 AM

And we have had many awful governors tying our state with the definition of corrupt, for some.

Basedrum777 t1_iuhfwdr wrote on October 31, 2022 at 11:07 AM

Because he negotiated cuts to benefits including removing cost of living adjustments for already senior citizens, let the teachers hold up their end by less benefits and increase contributions, and then reneged on his side to get contributions in exchange.

It's not like the previous people. He specifically backed out of a deal he himself agreed to. He lied and anyone with any kind of brain knew he would. Because that's the kind of guy he is. He went around the state bad mouthing teachers who make 40k to teach people's children. He's a douche and typical of his party and supporters.