I got an open container ticket in Manasquan a few months ago. I am 26 years old and moved to NYC from Maryland in April. I was shocked to learn my ticket was over $400. I was wondering if anyone had any advice on if I should just pay the ticket or go to virtual court and plead guilty with an explanation in hopes that the ticket gets lowered. Any advice would be super helpful!
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AshamedAtmosphere835 t1_itqk18p wrote
Was it during the summer?
Known_Tomato_3353 t1_itqnnj4 wrote
What?! That’s ridiculous!! You can go to the court and they’ll assign you a prosecutor which won’t cost anything - it’s worth a try
kailz7 OP t1_itqodw1 wrote
yes it was LDW and my court date is tomorrow! scared
kailz7 OP t1_itqofe3 wrote
okay thank you!
kailz7 OP t1_itqokj6 wrote
got it i will try that! so there is a possibility that they could lower the fine?
kailz7 OP t1_itqom1h wrote
i know lol i was expecting the ticket to be around 100 tops
throwaway2343576 t1_itqpf4r wrote
Um prosecutors prosecute. They work for the County and represent their interests, not the person who has the citation.
bros402 t1_itqpjwv wrote
They might change it to a different charge.
kailz7 OP t1_itqq6wr wrote
right but i have been to court before for a speeding ticket where the prosecutor lessened the charge so not sure if it would work similarly for an open container citation
AshamedAtmosphere835 t1_itqq9zu wrote
Since you’re a “Benny” and it was a summertime ticket, particularly during a holiday weekend you’re pretty much screwed
kailz7 OP t1_itqqk1o wrote
if you were me would you just pay the citation? I think it is $450 although if I try and fight it and go to court it will be $60 court fee
AshamedAtmosphere835 t1_itqqpdm wrote
You can absolutely go to court and try to fight it. At worst it costs you a little more money and a wasted day
kailz7 OP t1_itqr535 wrote
that is true.. luckily the court is virtual so it wouldnt be a complete waste of my day
WakeRider11 t1_itqrhau wrote
I don't have any advice to offer, but it does remind me of about 25 years ago my now wife drove down to Manasquan and grabbed a beer while unpacking her car and got snagged on the sidewalk between the house and the car with an open container. Must be a great moneymaker for them.
I wonder if fighting it now might be a good move if the person that wrote the ticket was one of those temporary cops that now wouldn't be around to show up in court.
AshamedAtmosphere835 t1_itqrmz3 wrote
What’s your defense going to be?
kailz7 OP t1_itqspw6 wrote
haha i am not exactly sure yet so could use some help there.. i think something along the lines of i moved to new york city a few months ago and although i have been loving it it has been quite the adjustment! i was at the jersey shore for the first time and i didnt know about the strict open container laws being from maryland. i know ignorance is not an excuse although i was hoping showing up today and showing that i am sorry and that it wont happen again will help reduce the fine
kailz7 OP t1_itqsx5x wrote
oh man that is brutal!! it really must be a great moneymaker especially during the summer time. yeah i am not sure because it is also virtual court so im not sure how it works? is the cop suppose to show up also and if he doesnt i can say not guilty?
AshamedAtmosphere835 t1_itqwr1s wrote
Shore towns make their money from Memorial Day through Labor Day. If you’re out of state during the summer, and you’re caught doing something, you’re not going to find any mercy from the police or courts. You’re going to need one hell of an excuse to find something to reduce the fine.
As they say “come on vacation and leave on probation”
bensonr2 t1_itqxa8f wrote
I would just pay it.
There are open container laws in most jurisdictions to my knowledge.
The only 2 places I'm aware of that allow open containers in popular tourist spots are New Orleans and Vegas. I'm sure there may be more but the point is its not common.
It seems like you defense is not that you didn't know that was against the law but that you didn't think it was a law that was enforced.
I'm not judging I'm just saying I can't picture that defense getting you very far and you'll just pay court costs on top of the ticket.
kailz7 OP t1_itqyk7p wrote
yes that is a good point.. lol i wish i knew that it was that expensive
cloudAhead t1_itr3moj wrote
You could try to beg for the mercy of the court and ask for a lesser fine, but I wouldn’t count on it. As others have said, this is how shore towns make money and their budgets are tight as well.
kailz7 OP t1_itr6oo8 wrote
yeah i might have to do that- living in nyc things are tight! someone was saying to ask for a lesser fine and donate to charity which might work?
bensonr2 t1_itrepua wrote
I would just count yourself lucky its not a required court appearance. Fines suck and like everything else are just getting more expensive. My last speeding ticket from 3 years ago cost me over 200 so I'm not surprised a misdemeanor is at least 400.
I would take it as a lesson learned that Jersey Shore towns do not F around with minor offenses. A lot of towns are a bit heavy handed in the interest of trying to keep it family friendly. Just cause you see coolers on every other blanket doesn't mean you won't be the poor SOB who gets a ticket when they go around checking.
oatmealparty t1_itroneo wrote
You can't get a public defender for a fine like this.
oatmealparty t1_itrpc49 wrote
If the cop doesn't show up, the judge might dismiss it, or they might adjourn it for another day. Depends on the judge.
Before it gets to the trial though, you'll have a pre trial conference with the prosecutor. It's possible they will work something out with you, but considering it's the shore, I doubt it.
_Ricky_Bobby_ t1_itt3aez wrote
What is the statue on the ticket? If it is 39:4-51b your fine won’t be 400 it’ll be more like 200
_Ricky_Bobby_ t1_itt44uz wrote
In nj you need to be facing a “consequence of magnitude” in order to be eligible for a public defender. Any case where you are facing a fine in excess of $800, loss of license, or jail is considered a case with a consequence of magnitude. An open container ticket for violating 39:4-51b would not be enough to qualify
_Ricky_Bobby_ t1_itt4zlk wrote
In nj municipal prosecutors work for the municipality not the county. Most municipal prosecutors in nj would be willing to offer downgrades in order to avoid trial but there needs to be something to downgrade it to that makes sense. For instance, almost any moving violation can be amended to unsafe operation of a motor vehicle (no points) because and moving violation would also be considered unsafe.
I don’t think there is anything that the prosecutor could really downgrade that to
Algae-Ok t1_itqhlur wrote
For this one I would go to court and try to talk to the prosecutor prior and seeing if they can lessen the charge. But don’t wait and let it become something more.