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CantSeeShit t1_iqy46zd wrote

I am 100% pro-choice but I'm not sure why there's gonna be a protest for it in New Jersey which is a pro choice state. Like we have the right to abortions here, there's no need to protest here. Go to a state that's pro-life and protest there, that's where we need to show that we need women's rights.

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UFOsBeforeBros t1_iqy9xha wrote

This may be a pro-choice state, but if the Republicans control all three branches of the federal government, abortion will be illegal nationwide. And while we’re not voting for president or Senate this year, any House seat that turns red puts the entire country one step closer to a full-on abortion ban.

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theexpertgamer1 t1_iqyhkoh wrote

Particularly for those unfamiliar, we need to protect Malinowski’s seat. It is incredibly important if Democrats are to even think about keeping the House majority.

Malinowski is facing a little bit redder district in a redder election year. It’s an uphill battle for him.

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PurpleSailor t1_iqzjhe3 wrote

Kean won't tell anyone what his objectives are once in office. All his ads are "Tom Malinowski bad". Not a thing about specifics or even a broad overview of his plan.

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diggstownjoe t1_ir0ft9i wrote

Unfortunately, with the way the MAGA cultists vote, he doesn't need an actual plan. His policy platform just needs to consist of not being a Democrat.

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NatAttack50932 t1_ir0yjok wrote

im pretty sure kean is pro choice

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SlyMcFly67 t1_ir11yq3 wrote

LOL, no. The guy literally had a secondary webpage that was completely different than his public facing one. What he says publicly and what he is, much like most Republicans, are two very different things.

https://web.archive.org/web/20220929141520/https://tomkean.com/kean-conservative/

Oh and he also voted against the Freedom of Reproductive Choice Act, so there is that. When a Republicans lips are moving, they are lying.

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theexpertgamer1 t1_ir1rpej wrote

Doesn’t matter even if he were. Kean would vote for McCarthy for Speaker. That means no Dem bills see the light of day and that an abortion ban DOES see the light of day. Doesn’t matter if Kean votes against the bill in the end, if he is part of the Republican Party and helps them win a majority, it’s bad news for abortion rights.

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coffee1978 t1_iqyeuud wrote

A full-on ban is not even supported by a majority of Republicans. Graham recently proposed a 15-week ban on some abortions, not a full-on ban, and such a law puts the US in the same class as most of Europe. Also, our government is so dysfunctional that even the Dems could not pass any meaningful legislation when they controlled all 3 branches, what makes you think the Republicans are somehow smarter and can do it? The only constant in our legislature is nothing gets done, which is why we expect the judicial branch to do things they are not chartered to do.

Misinformation like we are "one step closer to a full-on abortion ban" is counterproductive. It only feeds more emotions which feeds more misinformation. I know I'm asking a lot of Reddit, but try to keep your posts within the realm of truth, and be better than the Republicans.

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thejaga t1_iqyfje0 wrote

I remember a year ago when "what if they overturn roe v wade" was met with this same degree of skepticism. Let's be real, they would never do that...

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SlyMcFly67 t1_iqyjbpe wrote

Even from a completely unpartisan viewpoint, removal of Roe vs Wade allows states to even try their hand at a federal ban. They couldn't before. So objectively speaking, it absolutely 100% brings us one step closer.

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showusyourbones t1_ir04kz7 wrote

Lindsey Graham also claimed that other European countries do this, when in reality they have many, many exceptions and most don’t do that. There were very few exceptions to his proposed ban, even if the pregnancy threatened the mother’s life.

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theexpertgamer1 t1_iqykzac wrote

Biden’s first two years defined the most effective Congressional term in decades. Also why should we regress to the likes of Europe? A continent of stingy social conservatives…

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coffee1978 t1_iqylhzm wrote

>Biden’s first two years defined the most effective Congressional term in decades.

Can you please point at hard data to prove this, comparing to past terms across decades?

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theexpertgamer1 t1_iqylvbj wrote

Hard data…? Biden signed several major and significant bills with a 50-50 Senate and a slim House majority. That is astronomically effective and anyone that says otherwise is either unfamiliar with the workings of Capitol Hill or willingly sticking their hand in the sand.

Trump did not pass this much major legislation. Obama did not pass this much major legislation. Bush Jr. Did not pass this much major legislation. That already covers two decades.

He also appointed 84 federal judges (as in, Senate confirmed) in his first two years (so far). That’s more than Trump, Obama, Bush Jr., Bush Sr., Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon, Johnson, and Eisenhower. A bit below Clinton.

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coffee1978 t1_iqysb90 wrote

Apologies if I missed something, as I'm going off the top of my head and what I can easily lookup on Wikipedia/etc over the past 1/2 hour... If I am missing something substantial, please say so.

Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act - good thing, 100% agree.

CHIPS and Science Act - good idea and good something was passed, but quite underwhelming. $280b is chump change over 10yr. It costs $15-20b and years to just build a single fab, and this gives a measly $40b only towards construction and modernization. This will have some positive impact but in no way a slam dunk.

Inflation Reduction Act - it is about everything except inflation reduction. They simply renamed a climate bill because they were smart enough to know there would be blowback from the all sides of the public for passing a climate bill in the middle of this economic shitshow. It still is generally a good thing but people are too wowed by the sideshow to see what this really was.

KBJ Nomination & Confirmation - good thing.

Honoring our PACT Act - good thing, and is something Trump would never have done without being forced.

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American Rescue Plan - let's be honest, any Dem/Rep president would have passed something along these lines in 2021/post-pandemic. He gets a Participation Trophy for this one.

PPP Extension - Same as American Rescue.

Uyghur Forced Labor Prevention Act - meaningful, does not do anything to fix our broken country. Participation Trophy.

Juneteenth National Independence Day Act - meaningful, does not do anything to fix our broken country. Participation Trophy

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Not caring about any of the Executive Actions or Orders or Proclamations.

Decently effective, 100%. Astronomically effective? That's a stretch, which is all I'm saying.

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iamstrugglin t1_iqzxfp5 wrote

I really like this list and how brutally honest it is. With that being said, is it not the most effective in recent decades?

I feel as though that was the original claim.

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coffee1978 t1_ir0t06d wrote

I agree he has been effective, I still think "most effective" is a big stretch. That's the point I'm supporting.

Some of the accomplishments were simply due to the current times and situation. If Orange man had won a 2nd term, there anyway would have been economic packages similar to ARR, CHIPs, etc. Different scale and scope but there would have been something.

IRA is purely a Biden/Dem accomplishment. Mr Orange would have had something immigration/border or domestic energy related.

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iamstrugglin t1_ir0ujoo wrote

Huh, interesting point. I like what Biden's administration has done with the Pro act (I wish it could get passed), additionally the Disclose act is a win in my book. That's just my 2 cents.

Thanks for offering your perspective.

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theexpertgamer1 t1_iqyvicm wrote

There’s also the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act, first major gun bill in 30+ years (doesn’t matter if we agree with the bill or not). The Inflation Reduction Act is a monumental accomplishment, $700 billion in spending and significant strides forward in climate and healthcare (introduction of Medicare price negotiation, Medicare insulin price cap, etc.). The ARP could only be passed with Biden and a Dem Congress. Republicans did not support $1.9 trillion in spending (a tiny few GOP Senators pitched a measly $600 billion).

My initial point was about effectiveness. In the last decades there was no first term with such a large list of accomplishments. Especially with no wiggle room in the Senate.

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coffee1978 t1_iqyxad7 wrote

Bipartisan Safer Communities Act - many gun owners support this... want to know why? It changes nothing whatsoever for any legal gun owner. It applies minor tweaks to some small laws and funds a bunch of social programs that barely relate to guns. It simply checks a box that Biden passed a gun law. The B&H Admin are keenly aware that even members of their base are purchasing firearms (women and minorities are the largest groups of new gun owners in past 2 years). Any major legislation or ban would hurt them more than help. This law is another sideshow meant to distract.

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theexpertgamer1 t1_iqyyc9p wrote

Like I said, “doesn’t matter if we agree with the bill or not.”

Again, first major gun bill in 30 years. We aren’t arguing the merits of the bill here, just the effectiveness of Biden and the 117th Congress.

I read almost all of the 730 pages of the Inflation Reduction Act so I know that that bill isn’t a “sideshow” as you called it in your previous comment. As for the BSCA, I did not read a single page of it, but I still know it’s the first major gun bill in almost 30 years, no other President in that time managed to pass anything of the sort. 1994 had the assault weapons ban for example. Biden still is considering it a major priority to get a renewed assault weapons ban through the 118th Congress if the Senate majority expands (lol) and if Dems keeps the House (bigger lol). We will see what happens with assault weapons (99% chance of nothing happening).

And as I write this comment, I got notification that Biden has formally confirmed that he is running for re-election in 2024 so there’s a fun little breaking news for you since you’re respectful!

edit: apparently the news broke like 2 hours ago but I just got notified of it… but anyway

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whatsasimba t1_iqytz58 wrote

The entire country had the right to abortion for nearly 50 years, and we all got complacent, and now the Supreme Court will be ruling on a case that could abolish states rights. (The only people who cared about those are fully prepared to make the entire country bend to their will permanently.)

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jk1rbs t1_iqyxn7c wrote

Put it this way, during the years leading up to this when Roe V Wade was upheld, did the anti-choice crowd stop having rallies and marches in every state? No.

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EvadingTheDaysAway t1_ir0pzxa wrote

Yeah that’s because they weren’t getting their way. NJ is already pro choice.

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DoneDidThisGirl t1_iqy5nsu wrote

Lol, right? And Montclair too, of all places. I suppose visibility still matters, even when preaching to the choir.

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SlyMcFly67 t1_iqyjpvj wrote

For fucks sake it says it's a march not a protest. Call it a rally if it makes you feel better. Or do you need to shit in that too?

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MANWithTheHARMONlCA t1_iqykotw wrote

My first thought.. why we protesting in Jersey?

I assumed we still respected women in this state unlike the confederates scum?

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CantSeeShit t1_iqyprwg wrote

It's not like that, it's like why not protest in those shitty confederate areas instead?

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SweetheartAtHeart t1_iqywfh2 wrote

Probably because we came real close to electing a governor who would have taken it away. We can’t be complacent about this.

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SlyMcFly67 t1_iqyx85r wrote

If we call it a rally, would that unwad your panties about it? Like everyone has the time to drive to Kentucky to tell a bunch of hillbillies how they feel.

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RafeDangerous t1_ir00ah1 wrote

I've seen you make this point twice so far, maybe you should consider the possibility that your sarcastic answer is actually right? If you have to keep explaining it over and over, maybe it really would go over better if it were called a rally instead of a protest. A lot of people really don't see the point of protesting for a thing that most people in the area already agree on so how you brand something does actually matter.

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SlyMcFly67 t1_ir0xsbm wrote

Where does it say it's a protest?

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RafeDangerous t1_ir10a9b wrote

throughout this whole thread, you've responded to people calling it that twice

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SlyMcFly67 t1_ir1149g wrote

You clearly dont know how to read. If you can understand this, have a wonderful day.

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RafeDangerous t1_ir124cb wrote

So basically you just enjoy being a dick. That's okay, carry on.

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SlyMcFly67 t1_ir13c29 wrote

Ill entertain you for 1 more post because im bored and its almost lunchtime anyway.

  1. I did not refer to it as a protest.
  2. Neither does the OP.

Good luck if that doesnt help ya.

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RafeDangerous t1_ir13zz4 wrote

and yet you're getting pissy with people who do, rather than just saying "yeah, it's not really a protest, it's more of a rally for women's rights" or something. Basically, just being a dick where you don't need to be. Let me know how that works out for you with getting people to side with you on things.

Don't forget to downvote me again to show you how powerful you are!

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