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itsashortcut t1_iu2akzf wrote

A couple years from now, when the oil drilling, and refining industry in the USA is once again operating at 100% instead of 25% which is where we are at now, and when the volume of electric cars on the road are truly taxing the electrical grid, thereby drastically increasing the electrical rates, who knows what the license plates will say.

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BYNX0 t1_iu2k3w4 wrote

This made me laugh so hard.

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FartFragrance t1_iu2mlo5 wrote

For the price of a new Tesla I can afford to pay for gas.

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lilsmurf8019 t1_iu2nxbc wrote

That can mean so many different things.

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TheSpaceBetweenUs__ t1_iu2oilo wrote

Electric cars aren't going to save us, but this is still pretty funny

All the people who say they hate cities, transit, cyclists, and poor people reaping what they sow

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Mr_Matt_K t1_iu2q0sl wrote

It's a-- like a battery car!

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K2VMike t1_iu2r5oj wrote

There’s a Tesla around the Middletown area that has 20Regular as his plate

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Artemis_Ally t1_iu332ev wrote

I’ve seen a similar one in north jersey: “EWW GAS”

Makes me laugh

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PSEOL t1_iu3sc1s wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#280,082)

It doesn’t take 12 hours to change an electric car LOL. Maybe if you’re using your iPhones lightning cable with an adapter.

And before you point out level 2 chargers are 8-12 hours, that’s from absolutely dead, which most electric cars being charged daily, are not.

My point was there is fast chargers which can get you back on the road relatively quick if you are low.

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Educational_Paint987 t1_iu3sj8p wrote

At least there is a station on every corner and doesnt take more than 15min to refuel.

Good luck on your road trips with that tablet on wheels...

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BoomTownRat71 t1_iu3vgvc wrote

I bought a Model Y Performance last year and I’m having a blast driving it. Zero to 60 in 3.5 seconds for under $100K is pretty remarkable. And yes, passing gas stations is a bonus.

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BoomTownRat71 t1_iu3vnwb wrote

Replying to stickman07738 (#280,455)

There’s really nothing to repair. Batteries last over 300K miles and there’s no oil maintenance cost. It cost me about $80 a month to charge at home. That’s an equivalent of 20 gals of regular a month.

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akleit50 t1_iu3zat6 wrote

Lol will be in the wreck yard in five years.

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shbd12 t1_iu3zge7 wrote

Replying to therealdieseld (#280,731)

Seriously, if you are driving, say, across Pennsylvania, do you have to plan stops to charge to make sure there is a charger? How long to charge from a 25% battery to 100%? How far can you drive on an interstate using 75% of the battery? How much distance do you lose at night? Not challenging, I am genuinely interested.

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akleit50 t1_iu3zi5r wrote

Replying to jonnymoon5 (#281,162)

Yeah, but you can take your car to a local garage. You don’t need some “authorized” repair person to come pick up your car. Also, a lot of us know how to do routine maintenance and repairs on our cars. Save a bit of cash….

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lageymeister t1_iu406b9 wrote

LOL GAS, TE$LA, WHTSGAS just a few I’ve see

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therealdieseld t1_iu406if wrote

Replying to shbd12 (#281,284)

I actually recently went through PA, Paramus to Pittsburgh. The in-car navigation can calculate if you have enough battery or not and will route you to chargers automatically. For road trips, you don’t need to charge to 100%, just enough to get to the next charger. So for a 20 minute stop, that gives you about 1.5 - 2 hours of driving. A full 100% charge can take well over an hour honestly. But your 0-80% is 45 minutes and 0-50% is less than half that. I regularly go to Montreal which would normally be 5.5 hours to my destination. All the charging needed takes an extra 2 hours. And that’s including winter segregation. Overnight doesn’t use much battery if any, UNLESS you have sentry mode on. I believe it’s a couple percent overnight, 1-2%.

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Hoover889 t1_iu40x2p wrote

Replying to TechniCruller (#281,223)

If you can charge at home or work then you only ever need to visit superchargers on long road trips and the ~15 minute break every 2 or so hours is nice because you have a chance to stretch your legs, grab a snack, and go to the bathroom.

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Jezzes t1_iu42vpv wrote

LOL to go 100,000 miles with my Prius it costs 6,666 dollars in gas at 4 dollars a gallon.

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Educational_Paint987 t1_iu458rh wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#273,878)

Haha welcome to the downvote club. Honestly, we didnt even start talking about power outages during storms or flooding etc.

Seems like a lot of people are happy with charging their car every night and stopping every 200 miles for 2 hours 🤷🏻‍♂️

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Educational_Paint987 t1_iu45j72 wrote

Replying to PSEOL (#274,376)

If you find a working charging station. Lets not walk around claiming that EV chargers are available everywhere and are not already being used when you actually find one that works.

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PSEOL t1_iu45q2t wrote

Replying to Educational_Paint987 (#282,483)

Well no shit. If you don’t live near chargers, you’re probably not in the market for an EV to begin with.

No one who commutes hours a day / full charge is going to buy an EV.

Not to mention people in that situation likely can’t afford an EV to begin with. No one making a decent chunk of money chooses to have a shitty commute unless it’s worth it.

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PSEOL t1_iu464ra wrote

Replying to Educational_Paint987 (#282,533)

Yes it is. Good deduction skills.

I am not an EV for all supporter. It’s arguably worse for the environment considering you still need an energy source that’s likely coal/gas to charge it, and the batteries are extremely bad for the environment to begin with.

Anyone who thinks all cars will be EV by any particular date are just hilariously naive.

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stickman07738 t1_iu46697 wrote

Replying to jonnymoon5 (#281,162)

All car have an estimated $5-6K repair /maintence cost over a 10 yrs life. The issue with EVs are battery replacement costs of $10K or more. I have a friend battling Tesla now - I egg him on about how it was good buy.

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Salty_Sky_4041 t1_iu46hh3 wrote

I drive a Tesla and I love it, but these plates just make me hate teslas.

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brandoncoal t1_iu486ix wrote

Truly I have never met a Tesla owner I liked. Not even one I wish I liked really.

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zeroviral t1_iu49bke wrote

I’d drive a Porsche Taycan over a Tesla any day

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PracticableSolution t1_iu4by16 wrote

Replying to stickman07738 (#280,455)

Blow an EGR valve, crankshaft position sensor or transmission valve body on a modern car and you’ll be wishing you had a solid battery because an electric car doesn’t have any of that shit or most of the other 1500 moving parts under your hood you never look at.

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IntoTheMirror t1_iu4dmik wrote

Spacex badge? Yeah, I’m going to consider this an “up-badge”

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KoEnside t1_iu4e9ai wrote

Replying to PracticableSolution (#283,853)

Replacing the computer hardware or heat pumps in a Tesla can't be cheap either. Not saying IC engines are better than electric but a $50k luxury vehicle is going to cost more in repairs than a $5k Toyota Corolla.

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PracticableSolution t1_iu4fmkm wrote

Replying to KoEnside (#284,339)

All stuff that’s on any new car. That screen in the middle of any new dashboard ain’t cheap.

And I will gladly compare a brand new anything (ok, maybe not a VW or a Land Rover) to a whipped $5k Corolla.

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JaredBanyard t1_iu4jtll wrote

Replying to IntoTheMirror (#284,211)

Hey it's me the owner :) I actually got this "stealth performance model 3" so early that they didn't have the badges ready yet. Tesla offered version of the Performance Model 3 without the spoiler, wheels, and other superficial upgrades for like $8k less or something. So I just ran with it :)

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JaredBanyard t1_iu4jyxm wrote

Replying to jexxley (#277,702)

Oh wow! That was my Model S 60 right before I moved to this "stealth" Performance Model 3 :).

edit: Yes I am the owner of this Tesla :P.

edit2: I'm seeing a lot of misunderstandings and misinformation in this thread. If anybody has questions about Tesla ownership, please ask! I have owned Teslas for over 8 years. I've seen it all!

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JaredBanyard t1_iu4mzzd wrote

Replying to akleit50 (#281,337)

Those numbers are totally bogus.. My only maintenance the past 8 years of Tesla ownership has been tires and cabin air filters. I literally have not spent a dime more on any maintenance.

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akleit50 t1_iu4off3 wrote

Replying to JaredBanyard (#286,166)

There it is-your anecdotal evidence and personal experience has debunked the average cost of ownership based on all of the cars sold from a survey conducted by a reputable automotive website. Thanks for clearing that up. Since I only had to replace the brakes on my fiesta once, it’s utter bullshit that the average fiesta has had to have more than one brake replacement.

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akleit50 t1_iu4on1u wrote

Replying to angusshangus (#286,066)

Except my local garage has serviced my modern Volvo transmission. They’ve also replaced the clutch and hydraulics on my not as modern manual gearbox on my fiesta. But hey.

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bpnj t1_iu4r7ab wrote

Replying to akleit50 (#281,337)

Is that for the $100k model S or X? I bet a $100k Mercedes would be just as bad or worse. The 3 and Y are very simple compared to the other models (smaller tires, no air suspension, no motorized doors, no motorized door handles, I can go on and on. )

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badquarter t1_iu4rngk wrote

Unfortunately you already know everything you need to know about the person who would buy this license plate.

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pleuvonics t1_iu4twfq wrote

LOL Prius with an iPad

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lykewtf t1_iu4u3bm wrote

Replying to robsteoperosis (#285,311)

It's hard to find a car of equivalent luxury/features for much lower. That's what they cost, it's not just Tesla's. I just came from the cheapest oil change I could find at $70, I filled my car up after that it was $50 and I have brakes for the front coming up let's say 400. These are real costs that have to be added in to the "purchase price" if you are comparing mile for mile. I don't own a Tesla and I hate Elon, so no fanboy here.

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Undercover_Amy t1_iu4uixz wrote

I've def seen this car a few times in the past few years, I laughed every time

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Redditgotitgood13 t1_iu4zcwl wrote

Ah yes. Less fuel for when it spontaneously combusts. Jokes on us, i guess?

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JaredBanyard t1_iu550gd wrote

Replying to The-Protomolecule (#274,455)

Yup. It's crazy how much misunderstanding there is around EVs, especially Teslas. My home charger gives me about 30 miles an hour and the car is always plugged in. I almost always leave my house with a full charge of ~250 miles. If you have to charge on the road, the computer will tell you where and when to supercharge. Superchargers are capable of up to 200 miles in 15 minutes (250kw models). V4 superchargers are coming out soon and will be even faster. I only supercharge on the occasional road trip, it's vastly more convenient than gas on a day to day basis.

Edit: let me add that putting in a plug or Tesla charger can be very cheap depending on your electrical situation. I've had a NEMA 14-50 put in for as little as $250. But if you need a service upgrade, sub panels, or a long run, it obviously can grow.

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FartFragrance t1_iu55ixk wrote

Replying to stickman07738 (#280,455)

Believe it or not, but a lot of studies have shown that EV batteries actually don’t degrade as bad as a lot of those have been believing. By the time you actually need a new battery, they should be a lot cheaper.

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Webfarer t1_iu57fqi wrote

Replying to floppyfolds (#289,703)

I see. I didn’t think of “lol gas” as laughing at gas price, because a tesla is not cheap to begin with. Hence the confusion. But thanks, that makes sense.

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Trainlover1279 t1_iu57jd7 wrote

There was a guy with some highend suv with 401kgne

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fictionalreality08 t1_iu59d6j wrote

Replying to Salty_Sky_4041 (#282,674)

I own a Tesla too. It’s quite amusing to see there is this cult Tesla owner group who would not listen a single thing if you utter cons in Tesla or musk and another hand, there are these anti-Tesla group who are equally unbearable, extremely critical, doing hateful activities like keying the car. It is quite evident that there is so much unnecessary hype about it.

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p-Rob t1_iu5g87s wrote

Replying to Redditgotitgood13 (#288,812)

Another one falling for the propaganda I see.

From a simple google search: “A recent study conducted by AutoInsuranceEZ using data from the NTSB (National Transportation Safety Board) showed that electric cars in the US caught fire at a rate of 25.1 per 100,000 sales compared to 1,530 for ICE vehicles and 3,475 for hybrids.”

Or if you want the statistic in car fires per distance drive, here you go: “Tesla, which makes more than half of the electric vehicles sold in the U.S., reports five car fires per billion miles driven, compared with 55 fires per billion miles driven in gas-powered cars.”

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diamonddaddy88 t1_iu5pk4p wrote

Remember when we’d show off by flaunting expensive goods and call other people peasants? Now we gas shame them and drive Teslas 🤦🏻‍♂️

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Rainbowrobb t1_iu5wle6 wrote

Replying to JaredBanyard (#289,877)

So genuine question from someone who sees an EV as a perfect primary or secondary car for a two car household in the US.

Background. We regularly go on road trips and drive straight through 350 miles to Pittsburgh or go camping in the Adirondacks where there's barely cell service. However, I do commute into Newark several times per week, where I have dozens of free chargers available at my work. And like most people, 90% of the time I drive fewer than 100 miles per day.

Do you have a non EV? And what was the difference in your car insurance?

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ExpertTexpertChoking t1_iu5yalm wrote

Still not as great as the guy who’s had the “F OPEC” license plate for like 15 years. Started out on a Prius, and just saw it on a Model Y the other day.

FOPEC.com, a true NJ legend

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JaredBanyard t1_iu5zr61 wrote

Replying to Rainbowrobb (#295,058)

Hey there! So first you can find the supercharger map here, that area is heavily populated and you would easily find superchargers along the way and at the destination. You would only need to charge once on the way and probably top off close to your destination (depending on the Tesla model). Your daily would be no problem assuming you're always plugged in at home.

I don't have a non-ev and found I don't need it. My insurance was basically no different from my wrx from years ago. Tesla has the top rated safety of any vehicle on the market which helps.

Did that cover it?

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TheSpaceBetweenUs__ t1_iu609nu wrote

Replying to YawnTractor_1756 (#289,120)

>That’s based on nothing

Like your claim that nobody likes transit, of course ignoring all the people who do.

Anyways no, it’s not based on nothing. This figure reports a 5 to 1 return on investment. Took me 5 seconds of googling.

As for the suburbs you love so much, they have a negative ROI. Suburbs barely get a single dollar back for every 10 dollars put into them. Not so stingy when other people are subsidizing your shit. That’s the cities again that you hate so much.

But I’m sure you’re a special person who’s just inherently more entitled to our money for reasons you tell yourself at night. That’s usually how it goes at least

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riajairam t1_iu65mmh wrote

This person is a longtime tesla owner who had a model S early on. I used to see it parked at the Wayne transit center.

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Rainbowrobb t1_iu6ikhl wrote

Replying to JaredBanyard (#295,617)

Mostly. I appreciate your perspective as a Tesla owner. Our Accord will hit 200k trouble free miles this year's, but we know those days are numbered. We are more of a "use it until it no longer can be reasonably repaired in my driveway" sort of green household. My newest cars are 10yo and my oldest is 33yo. We wouldn't personally pick a Tesla so the charging infrastructure isn't as important as it would be largely a commuting appliance. There isn't presently an EV that can replace our CR-V. But I understand that I am the exception and I am excited for the future of EVs. Especially if solid state batteries can be made a practical option.

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YawnTractor_1756 t1_iu8ombn wrote

Replying to TheSpaceBetweenUs__ (#295,720)

Read the paper . It will only pay for itself if it is planned properly leading to significant ridership increase within significant time (20 years, as per paper). Claim that PT always pays for itself no matter what is false.

By 'nobody likes transit' I meant commute in public transport, and of course it's an oversimplification that I used to reply to a dumb comment.

I don't cling to suburbs, and I don't hate cities. I hate living in cities. And I lived in several European cities for a large part of my life. I prefer to live in a suburb or semi-rural area, and those areas work differently than cities. Public transportation cannot work in them the same way. Again I know that for a fact because I lived major part of my life in a public transport based country, and even there suburbs and semi-rural areas were covered sparsely and people relied on personal transport a lot.

Don't get me wrong, it's cool to have public transport, it liberates those who cannot drive for financial reasons or because they are too young, but pushing it everywhere only works if everyone is pushed into cities, which I'm not having.

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bookofp t1_iuhtzlk wrote

Replying to stickman07738 (#280,455)

Cost per mile of a battery change is different depending on driving style and how you charge your car but a short example might work out like this:

Let's pretend for the sake of arguments that we're talking about a Tesla Model S, and also let's pretend that you drive a lot and are completely unable to charge at home for whatever reason so you are forced to use high-speed superchargers as your only charging method. (this method of charging degrades the battery faster)

There are Tesla Model S cars now starting to stream back to Tesla for battery replacements. Most of them are owned by the same company that is doing testing of EVs and other technologies. One thing that is interesting is that these battery replacements are commonly reported as being $30k online, and most of these Tesla Model S vehicles that are needing these new batteries have about 400k miles on them

That puts the cost per mile for a replacement battery pack at 7.5 cents, and if you charge at home on a slower charger, the battery will last longer bringing this cost down. Factor in the cost of electricity and you're still winning by driving an EV, even if you ignore stuff on the ICE side like more frequent brake jobs, oil changes, and regular maintenance that happens on engines by the time you hit 400k miles (timing belts, spark plugs, etc)

Plus 400k miles is a lot of miles, most people don't get that far, and if they do it's going to be many years for even the average high milage driver. By that point in time a lot more EVs will be on the road and the economies of scale will kick in and batteries will be cheaper.

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