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Tell your kid to defend himself. Do not take any shit, hit the bully if he messed with you. In the nose preferably because it will make him tear up, giving you time to get away.

I don't think there is footage on buses? But I'd reach out to your building supervisor/principal.

Many kids simply don’t want to fight. Don’t mistake the level of your confidence for theirs.

Contact the school immediately and document every conversation. They should address with the bus service and if not, proceed with a lawyer.

You have to contact the administration with your concerns. They won't give you the footage but they will review it. I think to actually get the footage you would need a lawyer.

Schools will do everything humanly possible to bury their own negligence. Just remember when you’re talking with the school that their top priority is legally protecting themselves and their staff, not your child. I’m speaking from experience, I’ve seen administrators go to bat for the biggest piece of shit teachers knowing damn well they’re lying their asses off. I’ve seen parents complain about abusive teachers to principles, principles work their magic, and then when the student returns to class the teacher is even shittier to the student as revenge. It may sound insane but teachers can be some of the pettiest most unhinged people. Again, I’m speaking from personal experience.

If you want direct no bullshit action don’t even talk with anyone at the school, go directly “downtown”, whatever that means in your town, and file a complaint there.

Also get a wristband camera or necklace camera so your child can have video proof of the bullying. They look completely normal like an Iwatch or necklace but are recording HD video and sound

Our district has it. Probably most do.

Sounds like OP has a student to student issue, not a teacher issue. As a teacher, I’m sorry you had a bad experience with teaching staff. Most of us love our students and strive to make a positive impact.

Ok tough guy.

Well they better learn if they want to stick up for themselves.

And nobody WANTS to fight.

Tough guy? I'm not a tough guy, nobody wants to fight ever. Last resort. But buddy, if it comes to getting picked on every single day dreading waking up, or fighting. Time to take the bully down.

The problem is getting picked on by a bully may involve everything except physical contact. So while a punch in the nose may be appropriate after a certain point of repetitive harassment, it’s probably the victim who couldn’t take it anymore that gets in trouble… Especially in a school setting.

Some kids are small, some kids are scared. Some kids know more than 1 kid will jump on them if they try to fight back.

Do you have kids, or were you just picked on yourself?

As a parent it wouldn't matter to me. If my kid is getting bullied, defends himself and then gets suspended, he would receive no punishment from me. As long as he was defending himself.

It doesn't matter if they are small or scared. Kids are vicious. Do you remember being a kid lol. If you don't stand up from r yourself then you will remain afraid.

Better to take some karate and handle it.

You may be able to get the footage through an OPRA request to the Board of Education.

cringes at being that type of father

I think it's respectable. I gringe at you, no sense of right and wrong, little self confidence, which is typical today from people, unfortunately.

Parents should teach their kids to be respectful, otherwise they gonna become a redditor.

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Scenario. Your kid starts falling into a deep depression you notice but you don't know why. You find out kids are waiting for him after school at the bus stop, taunting him and occasionally physically hitting him.

Without going to the school, how do you tell your kid to handle this situation?

I guess I’m just a beta cuck.

I would have ur kid record it on the ur phone, turn it on and hide it. I wouldn’t ask the school first.

I think ur right. When parents get involved and the school it becomes bigger, and it just adds to the original issue.

Sure, but from a child’s perspective, sticking up for one’s self and then getting suspended can be pretty upsetting too…

I guess you are. Doesn't have to be that way though you know.

Thank you! I'm not alone out here

I think that the kid probably gets his value system more from his family than school system. It would definitely be dramatic for the kid no doubt, I do agree. But if the parent stood by him it would be great life lesson.

Well, standing by your kids and supporting them is certainly a keystone of good parenting! Except for those bullies parents of course…

You are probably right. At what point does verbal abuse trickle into physical contact. I would say when the victim has had enough of it.

Having your kid take karate or other self defense classes is a great idea. They will know how to handle themselves (responsibly, hopefully) in a worse case scenario. But more importantly, they will have the confidence to believe they can handle themselves, and will be able to project a “don’t fuck with me” attitude, making themselves unlikely to be bullied in the first place. Plus they can stick up for other kids being bullied!

You are too tough to detect sarcasm. You are a true alphalfa!

As someone who has been bullied in the past, over the course of several years and by several different individuals, I can assure you that hitting back does absolutely nothing to change the situation. In some cases it just riles up and escalates the problem even worse.

That's not my experience. Anytime I stood up for myself I either actually became friends with the bully or he left me alone and bothered someone else.

Lol of course!

Definitely. And martial arts teaches violence is always the last resort. Nobody wants to fight but if you have to fight it's better to know how to fight

Lol. Sarcasm is hard to read on the intra net lol