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grr5000 t1_ix028ca wrote

No idea what you are asking

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peter-doubt t1_iwzvfnb wrote

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peter-doubt t1_iwzvql5 wrote

Doesn't clarify your question

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rewardiflost t1_ix0ny1m wrote

Oh. So you want to know what housing projects were around in the 1980s in Jersey City and Hoboken.

In JC, there was Marion Gardens , Duncan Projects, Currie's Woods, Montgomery Gardens, Booker T Washington Apartments, Holland Gardens. I don't know about Hoboken.

I'm not sure if that's all, or what is still around. I was in high school in 1980. I had a short career in law enforcement at the time of the "Dotbusters", and I agree with what that other writer said - lots of the suspected actors were never really investigated. It seems like things got covered up. They were family of politicians or cops, and later became cops/politicians themselves.

Since they didn't actually go to trial, I don't know if the suspected actors were guilty or not - but from rumors around the time, the investigations never got that far. The beatings stopped, and a couple of arrests were made to appease the feds.

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rewardiflost t1_ix0pc14 wrote

I don't know.

Here, it wasn't clear what you were asking. It wasn't until you posted links and I read the context that I understood what you were asking.

If others don't understand you, they may downvote you. Here in Jersey (like New York and Philly) we usually are kind and helpful but we aren't always nice. We don't have a lot of patience to wait for your question to come out right - but if you do get it out, we're happy to help.

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rewardiflost t1_ix0sjre wrote

Everybody lived in the projects. There were white people, hispanic, asians, blacks - everyone. They weren't segregated.
If you were broke/poor, and you applied for it, you could get on the list to live in the reduced cost apartments in one of the projects. "government-run reduced cost housing projects"

The balance of people living there looked more black and hispanic because of the way the economy works. Even though there are fewer of those folks than white people in the general population, they comprise a greater percentage of people living in poverty.

Asian immigrants weren't very numerous in Jersey City prior to the 80s. We had some Phillipinos and Vietnamese/Hmong/Cambodian refugees from the war. There weren't many Indians or people from elsewhere on the continent. Those that did come didn't want to ask for help - at least not that kind of help. They were more likely to live in a shared home or apartment with 12 or 14 people instead of applying for housing.

There are plenty of racists around. Unfortunately even in places like Hudson County where we have a huge melting pot, people are still going to hate different people.

I'm not terribly familiar with the original group - I had some knowledge of cases that happened in the parks and shopping areas of Jersey City - Union City - North Bergen (Central Ave, Bergenline Ave, Pershing Field, Washington Park, North Hudson Park). They weren't as widely publicized as the Mody case, but they did result in a couple of Federal indictments.

At the time, the Feds treated them as a loosely organized group with no real structure, funding, officers or leaders. When the arrests happened, the group went away. Or it seemed to.

I haven't heard anything about any organized group or pattern against Indian people since. I'm not in law enforcement, but I did have several connections over the years. I also do stay up on reading the NJSP and other LE bulletins for public release.

For all I know, they may be looking at your shoes, your pants, or anything else. They might be racist against what you look like, too. But hell - most of the old racists I knew couldn't tell the difference between a Peruvian and a Pakistani. They just know you're different.

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