Frank Sinatra mug shot 1938New_Stats OP t1_ixjo8dh wrote
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Innocent until proven guilty is a value we should instill in children. Reactionary bullshit should be discouraged in children and you should better know better
>In 1938, a 23-year-old Sinatra found himself in just such a situation, and he was officially arrested and booked for Seduction. The charge was eventually dropped when it was discovered that the supposedly single woman was in fact married. Later that year, armed with this new information, the original charge was revised slightly, and Sinatra was again arrested, this time for Adultery.
>A bond was set for Sinatra, which he promptly paid, and he was released. The Adultery charge was later dropped and in total, he spent only a few hours in jail as a result of the situation.
https://www.crimemuseum.org/crime-library/celebrity-mugshots/frank-sinatra/
kzapwn t1_ixjosun wrote
I don’t want my children to grow up to be adulterous. I’ll stick with Joey bishop as their role model thank you very much
daedalus_was_right t1_ixjv6p2 wrote
You need professional, psychological help. I feel so sorry for anyone forced to be in your life. Please seek therapy you fucking whacko.
1moosehead t1_ixl8uvf wrote
What if you were their role model instead?
kzapwn t1_ixl8xne wrote
The world would be very boring. We would never see another jay walker every again
1moosehead t1_ixl90qr wrote
Maybe be a more exciting person, and your children will be exciting too!
kzapwn t1_ixl91vy wrote
I prefer the Ned Flanders approach to life
New_Stats OP t1_ixjqnv1 wrote
so innocent until proven guilty means nothing to you? Maybe try getting some American values, they're pretty great and the republic will be destroyed when a significant amount of the population abandons them
kzapwn t1_ixjqsgz wrote
I support the boys in blue and our troops
New_Stats OP t1_ixjsys8 wrote
Can you name one value passed down to us from the founding fathers which you possess? Because neither of the things you mentioned are that
kzapwn t1_ixjt37z wrote
George Washington was a troop
New_Stats OP t1_ixju6d1 wrote
He was the general. He's the most highly decorated general in our history, because we just keep giving him more awards every time a living general gets too many stars. It'd be cool if you knew that or read literally anything he wrote. It'll help you act like an actual American and not a reactionary, because the founders' hated reactionaries. They valued logic and reason; they were men of the enlightenment. something this country is abandoning at breakneck speed
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Here, pick something and read it. It will enlighten you
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https://www.archives.gov/nhprc/projects/catalog/george-washington
kzapwn t1_ixjuee7 wrote
The entire revolution was a bunch of entitled colonizers which didn’t want to pay their fair share of taxes. Read a history book. They weren’t good people. Worse role models than Frank Sinatra.
New_Stats OP t1_ixjvh25 wrote
I've read quite a few history books. And I'm happy to inform you that Jefferson would wholeheartedly agree with you, as he called himself a "barbarous ancestor" to those of us who would live centuries after him.
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They weren't infallible, they weren't without massive flaws, just like all humans. They made huge mistakes but to look at only that, without looking at all they accomplished, all the good they did, is just as unreasonable as fetishizing them
kzapwn t1_ixjwffd wrote
What did they accomplish? They created a nation built on Indian land, defended by British soldiers and money with slaves as a bonus
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