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New_Stats OP t1_ixjvh25 wrote

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I've read quite a few history books. And I'm happy to inform you that Jefferson would wholeheartedly agree with you, as he called himself a "barbarous ancestor" to those of us who would live centuries after him.

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They weren't infallible, they weren't without massive flaws, just like all humans. They made huge mistakes but to look at only that, without looking at all they accomplished, all the good they did, is just as unreasonable as fetishizing them

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kzapwn t1_ixjwffd wrote

What did they accomplish? They created a nation built on Indian land, defended by British soldiers and money with slaves as a bonus

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