Submitted by miMinaminoManeMinoMo t3_yw6vv4 in newjersey

So I received a new job offer where it specifically mentions in the offer letter that I will be a remote/home based employee and I have an upcoming drug test for it and I was wondering if this law would apply to them as well. I am a New Jersey resident and I will be working in NJ.

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peter-doubt t1_iwhxlz1 wrote

Good question....

It might, but how would, and who can enforce that in a practical way?

Can someone point to a state agency that can define NJ laws and protections?

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tickdickler t1_iwi0d0p wrote

The protections IN the state aren't even that protective. We are a at will employment state and if you take a drug test for potential employment they can still deny you for being positive and just state another reason for not hiring if it ever came into question. So a job out of state would have no duty to adhere to NJ law outside of how to tax your check.

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Jake_FromStateFarm27 t1_iwi61p2 wrote

This is better asked in r/newjerseymarijuana but to my knowledge it's a gray area at best. Is the reporting office located in state or another state? NJ is at will employment which means they can deny you employment after the fact for any other reason. Depending on the nature of your job it probably won't be an issue so long as it's not a federal position or associated with federal contracts as the federal government has a zero tolerance policy for those positions and associates while still at will do take it seriously Depending again on the type of work you'll be doing or associated with. If you are an avid user I reccomend a medical card, it's fairly simple and affordable process and many states protect against medical discrimination specifically (NJ does specifically which does make disclosure much easier) again so long it isn't federal or does not require you operating vehicles or machinery.

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Jake_FromStateFarm27 t1_iwingw6 wrote

Thank you for adding this is an important reason to mention! It blocks new purchases as mmj cards are a red flag on firearm purchases. So it is reccomend if you intend on getting a major card you get firearm purchase card and any additional hunting licenses before your mmj card.

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Jake_FromStateFarm27 t1_iwiqehp wrote

>Which can't be renewed and can never be bought again

You have to renew your med card annually so you can. Additionally its a gray area but if your med card is not for treating a mental health issue there is some room although still a gray area. Licenses are denied because of mental health not because of specifically use of cannabis although it can still be used to discriminate.

>Also it's technically illegal I believe to even own the gun if you are a user. So if you have guns, and are high etc that can be an issue.

It's not. It's a legal gray area (not a lawyer) again specifically since we do discriminate firearm purchases for mental health discrepancies not because you are high and then irresponsible.

>If you use weed no matter how, you then have to say yes on the form and be denied

Just blatantly false information.

>So you will give up your right to ever buy a gun again.

You can renew your firearm license when your mmj card expires although you will probably still be flagged and most likely have to go through different channels to update this information.

>Then I believe that only applies to the form and you can get them at the good ol' Gun show. private party etc (non straw of course)

You have to register all purchases whether you buy from a big box or from a gun show or private owner. It's illegal otherwise and the original owner would be holding themselves severely liable if that were to happen since they can literally trace it back to you. I have gone to plenty of gun shows in the past and I've had to fill out paperwork all the time to register my purchase and their transfer.

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Jake_FromStateFarm27 t1_iwiv04s wrote

Ya im not a lawyer, but that's not what legal gray area means either and what you suggested above is just blatantly wrong. Be responsible educate yourself and weigh the pros and cons of a med card vs your right to purchase firearms.

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Jake_FromStateFarm27 t1_iwj17nw wrote

>The fact you're even arguing it proves my point. Some judges will rule different lmao.

That's not how logic works my friend. Arguing does not prove your point. I'm being polite.

>The ambiguous aspect you're debating is proving my point

Nothing is ambiguous.

>However no, it's not from legal advice.

Neither what we are sharing is legal advice especially what you continue to insist on. You and are both speaking from limited knowledge. If you wanna confirm or deny anything we've said back it with a source please.

>However, my dad is a lawyer so sometimes if I'm curious I'll give him a call and ask.

So you confirm like I said you're not a lawyer even though you insinuated so. That said there are plenty of individuals in politics that do not have a legal background yet write policy, laws, all as elected officials.

>You even stated you're not a lawyer, if I have one in my family I would believe him over you

Get the fuck out of here with that idiotic logic lmao. I have attorneys in my family as well that doesn't mean I inherit their actual knowledge and skills or get to speak from a position of authority.

Anyone can read and interpret the law its all publicly available, that doesn't mean anyone is as knowledgeable as an actual legal attorney or pretend to be all knowing because "My DaD iS a LaWyEr" . Grow up.

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lividtaffy t1_iwjohy5 wrote

I don’t think this is true, I applied and acquired my mmj card, 2 months later started the process for firearm purchaser permit, bought a rifle a week after that card was in-hand. No red flags or hiccups to my knowledge

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scarbunkle t1_iwm7izi wrote

I don't think they could test for marijuana, though--they have no legitimate use for that info. They might as well ask if you're married, it's just opening them to lawsuits.

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tickdickler t1_iwmdaha wrote

There is no law that says marijuana can not be tested for in employment. It is still being tested for, some companies don't but most do still. CREAMMA needs to be expanded.

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