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kzapwn t1_ixt7v1i wrote

We have better food & access to every necessity lol

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Isosceles_Kramer_ t1_ixt98cj wrote

We definitely don’t have better food, we don’t have as diverse of a selection of food that’s for sure. NJ is not more walkable by any means either.

For instance: from my office in midtown, i can walk to 5 different ramen places within 15 minutes. From my home in north/central jersey, there are two ramen spots that are both 20+ minute drives.

If you don’t like that the city is crowded that’s one thing, but just say that then

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kzapwn t1_ixt9ir8 wrote

I just typed in ramen to my Apple Maps and 11 places popped up in my area lol

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Isosceles_Kramer_ t1_ixt9l95 wrote

It’s almost like your little slice of Jersey isn’t indicative of the entire state, “lol”

That was also just an example. The food in manhattan is more diverse and generally accepted to be better, that shouldn’t really need any justification.

One of the best parts of the state, and one of our defining characteristics, is proximity to manhattan.

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kzapwn t1_ixta7dk wrote

I randomly dropped a pin in a part of the state, somewhere called “penns neck” and searched ramen. 5 places with ramen in the name and 2 others that appear to be sushi + ramen. Our food is just as diverse. The only food I’ve had in NYC that was better than anything in NJ or unavailable here is Kenyan.

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Isosceles_Kramer_ t1_ixter0a wrote

I just dropped one by me. 24 hits - up to 20 miles away, with chinese/sushi spots (not actual dedicated ramen spots)

Food is incomparable imo, although we do have some gems. I’d put NJs food above a ton of/almost all cities/states i’ve been to. I do love it here, but from a food/culture standpoint to me we are more or less a byproduct of the vast amount of food/culture in the city

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sutisuc t1_ixts8qq wrote

NYC is better than NJ but California smokes them both

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Isosceles_Kramer_ t1_ixva7xl wrote

I don’t know enough about California to have a real opinion, but my experience is it’s so thoroughly not walkable it makes Jersey look urban.

But maybe i just haven’t seen enough of the state

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jgweiss t1_ixu6hme wrote

you're missing the point. you have access to food an necessitites, but would you feel the same way if you were underage/disabled/unable to afford a car? you are restricted to the ~3 miles around you, which is often not more than a few strip malls, some of which are across very dangerous roads.

yes life is fine in nj provided you can keep up on loan/lease, insurance and gas, and don't mind driving for 40 minutes to get "local ramen" 15 minutes away. but it doesn't compare to (being wealthy enough to afford) life in Manhattan, where everything you need is available within a half-mile walk from your home, and everything in the world is a 6 mile bike ride away (and you don't have to take your life in your hands biking on highways to get around).

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kzapwn t1_ixu6nf5 wrote

So in this hypothetical someone can afford to live in Manhattan but not be able to afford a car? Sure NYC is better than NJ if you don’t feel like hiring a driver

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