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AbazabaYouMyOnlyFren t1_ix01pug wrote

Reply to comment by Zyply00 in Is there a way to talk to a direct NJ labor agent about illegal work conditions? by [deleted]

Yes it's a serious question.

"Knowingly"

If it's a chronic problem and not a one-off, someone in a managerial position is "knowingly" doing it.

Seriously, do you even stop to read the words you're posting?

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Zyply00 t1_ix05ube wrote

Yes but management isn't HR. Mangers get fired ALL THE TIME so HR should be told asap when this stuff is happening so they know there's managers treating employees illegally. In Mike's situation it would appear HR was aware of multiple reports and didn't act in accordance with the law. By "knowingly" I'm only talking about a department that is directly responsible for dealing with this type of thing. So now question is are YOU even reading what I'm typing or just replying with a defensive emotion and not thinking about the legal process that needs to happen? Companies don't just get in trouble automatically and I think people think they do. When someone just reports things to the government and not actually work through the existing channels you waste needed resources and causes taxes to go up when it could've been resolved much quicker. That's all I'm trying to say.

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AbazabaYouMyOnlyFren t1_ix06coy wrote

You don't understand my point and your assumptions here are ridiculous.

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Zyply00 t1_ix06n60 wrote

What assumptions? What's your point?

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AbazabaYouMyOnlyFren t1_ix07bpq wrote

Exactly.

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Zyply00 t1_ix07nhn wrote

Exactly what? I heard you but your opinion wasn't aligned with the existing process in place. So I'm giving you the opportunity to explain your point again then you say nothing. You are literally making no point and not contributing to the conversation constructively.

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Zyply00 t1_ix3t9id wrote

> you don't go to HR for something like this, you report it first to the Labor Department

Your original point was, " you don't go to HR for something like this, you report it first to the Labor Department, and when, not if you get fired, it's clearly retaliation" so honestly what part am I missing? It's very simple to understand your original point. But that isn't how it works, and it will just waste time and money because it creates unnecessary confusion. As for my assumptions, where am I off of thinking this is misguided? You're clearly mad at the company, which you should be, which I am as well, so you take the path of least resistance, which I just explained above because this is what everyone is told to do from companies and the DOL.

It seems you think I'm not on the victims' side or something. I'm a professional and heavily advocate for human rights but aim to provide factual information to empower people to be effective and not react in anger but with information to get results. I do think from here we've had enough back and forth where any further communication wouldn't be useful so I'll jump ship.

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