Take em down with the force of the gods

My first job was bagging groceries at a kroger. Baggers don't get mats to stand on, only the chercker gets that luxury. Now kroger is all self checkout with a camera in your face and they scan my ID every time I buy beer. Fuck em

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Stand on? Don't they have chairs?

There's this absurd, unfounded belief in the US that sitting down puts off the impression that you're lazy, and some retail businesses will fire you for taking a seat, no matter how long or short that seat is.

Is this a recent thing or has it always been this way?

I don't think I've ever seen it at larger supermarkets in the UK

That's how it was 15 years ago when I was bagging at one of their competitors.

As far as I know Aldi is one of the only chains in the US that let's cashiers sit. Makes sense since it's not a US company

As far as I'm aware it's always been that way in the US

I remember working in the oilfield in the US back in the early 90s. If you were seen sitting down you were fired. Must be in your feet all day, no matter what. When lunch time came it was more about resting your body than getting some calories. They'd call you "magnet ass" if you complained and wanted to sit.

The only grocery store I've ever seen cashiers sitting down in the US is Aldi.

I think Winco does as well, but it's been a while since I've shopped there.

Ethnic grocers don't have chairs, even if it’s the ethnic owner running the checkout, so it's not necessarily just a US thing.

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To be fair, and its probably why they make them do it, but standing up is way better for you than sitting down

In Germany, cashiers usually sit.. there are only very few exceptions and those have a reason for the cashier to be on his feet other than "look busy pal".

Standing up for long periods on a hard surface is not at all better for you than sitting. For people without medical conditions, alternating regularly between sitting and standing is the least harmful.

Krogers is not all self checkout... And yea they look at your ID, they have to. If you wanna complain about that complain to your government.

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https://local12.com/newsletter/family-files-wrongful-death-lawsuit-against-kroger-claiming-harassment-drove-employee-to-suicide-cincinnati#

>The lawsuit said, in October of 2020, a store manager at the Kroger in Milford started a campaign dedicated to ousting Evan while proclaiming her intention to make his life a “living hell." The suit claims Evan was harassed for his political views and co-workers referred to him as "Antifa."

>The lawsuit said he was mocked by his manager for wearing a mask to protect himself and customers in the store from the COVID-19 pandemic.

>The suit goes on to claim Evan was followed home, received threatening text messages and was sent child pornography.

Jesus how childish and disgusting, that poor man

My mom worked for a grocery store for over 40 years, it wasn’t until major damage and doctors orders was she allowed to have a chair (which she had to provide) for the last 5 years. Not only that, but she was harassed for those 5 years by management, her chair was often lost, stolen, or mysteriously broken.

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I don't mind a person looking at it, they have a somewhat new store policy to always scan it into the system. It's invasive.

Invasive? Nothing on their is private. It is ALL public record.

May be the case for the original corporate decision, but the manageres made sure we knew to never be seen sitting. I got in trouble several times for leaning. They also made us scan pur fingerprints to clock in and out EVEN FOR BREAK and if you did it a minute early or late you got in trouble because it messed with their billing or some shit. Then you get to break and they've got fuckin judge judy on the tv

Their system now knows every time you buy alcohol instead of a person simply verifying your age. It is not the same.

Uhhm… I thought distributing CP was a felony? Would have been glad to hear someone took action on that specifically.

Good to know. I live in the area. Time to change groceries.

Then don't buy alcohol from there? Everywhere you go is going to check your ID. They will all have varying ways to do it. Scanning is a security check to make sure it's real. Speedway does it, and apparently so does the Krogers you go to aswell.

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Those compassionate loving Christian conservatives

Kroger was my first job as a teen, and I was bullied nonstop by coworkers in their 50s. When I repeatedly went to management, they said I had to stay in that department because no one else would work with them. It was the worst job I ever had.

The party of family values, dontchaknow

Kroger sucks. They made sick people come in during the pandemic here in atl

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Most grocery stores do not allow employees to sit. Some employees like assistant managers work 10 plus hours

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Not to mention where they got it. You don't just Google it and get CP. They already found it somewhere ahead of time.

Some of them do. My local tiny place has a chair. They hardly speak English and they stand while checking you out, but then they just sit down and chill.

I work on those systems. It messes with nothing. They are liars, plain and simple. It integrates with payroll software and requires exactly 0 extra work if you're off. It's actually more work to track and punish you for it.

There's a slight exception sometimes, if you're a full time employee at exactly 40 hours a week, if you get one minute extra that one minute is calculated as overtime. In corporate structures that punish managers for overtime they could be in trouble for a single minute. Still stupid.

“Attorneys for Kroger have previously argued the company had no way of knowing Seyfried might take his own life.”

That is Terrible. Oh we’re cool with everything going on. We never thought about our actions could lead to that

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I stock shelves at a supermarket and have seen people get questioned for sitting on the floor to fix something on a bottom shelf. Still working, just doing it comfortably instead of kneeling on a concrete floor.

Between Kroger not paying their workers correctly, I’m sure management gets paid on time and correct amount and this. Only thing you can do is not give them your money.

Doesn’t help that everything is designed at standing height but a high chair solves that

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I learned the lesson about people bullying you if you are nice. You have to put your foot down and be ready for others to take advantage of you being meek, even if in a more ideal world that’s what we should strive for. The reality is that the world is filled with trash and you can’t bow down to bullying. You have to fight back. Sadly it seems this man tried to take the high road and the attacks never stopped.

Hey we have this in the Northern Territory, Australia. And they can refuse to sell you alcohol under the banned drinkers legislation. But geez if u just want a nice wine to go with your meal, doesnt matter.. you must produce photo id and its scanned into the gov database to determine if u are allowed to buy. This is for every single person who wants to buy alcohol in the NT. Cigarettes just need photo id to prove age.

It’s definitely not a corporate policy then. The ones near me in Michigan don’t do it, they just do an age check.

A woman in her late 60s was trying for the golden ratio of years worked in the union(Kroger subsidiary). There's a point where we were finding her things to do, other than check people out. She was so ... damn ... slow. She required a walker to get to her spot, and was the single slowest checker we had. I mean, I get trying to get to retirement with the most work credit so your union stipend is liveable, but killing yourself to get there defeats the purpose.

We had another, a cart wrangler, who also was hitting retirement age. She was running her body ragged to complete her 20 years. Yes, you get less if you are not in that "golden ratio," but you also are less likely to be found half-eaten by your cats when the firefighters do a wellness check, after you miss 2 days' work. Her attendance record was spotless before that, so something was wrong.

I feel like childish is under selling this.

Kroger in Xenia Ohio was one of my first jobs.

I’m sick and tired of corporations getting away with murder.

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Lol! Same! Kroger bakery... That manager made it horrible for every teen that worked in her store. She's dead now. Cancer.

The day she fired me for wearing the "wrong pants" is the day my mom had her 4th husband break my nose for the 3rd time. Meeeeemorieeeeees.

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That's all kinds of really fucked up. And I can't believe we live in a day and age taking safety precautions against a disease is ridiculed. Like it really is some of the most ridiculous shit I've ever seen. If you do the right thing, oh you must be a liberal. Like, covid don't give a shit about politics.

I hope you are doing amazing now. Im so sorry for the trauma you had to endure by the hands of your mom step dads and that bakery manager asshole.

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Good… it drove me nuts the way they pulled out of NC and shoved the higher priced Harry Peter (which they also own) down our throats. My gag reflex is still bothering me.

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Oh my god. I got bullied at Kroger when I was 19! Literally sexually harassed by an older manager too. Crazy I had no idea it was so common.

Oh honey, that’s horrific. They are terrible people who shouldn’t have been hurting you, they should have been protecting you. I hope you never have to deal with them ever again.

We had an employee like that. When I started she was 72 and a machine, but 10 years later was really struggling and would not quit. It got dangerous because we work with hot food and her knee would give out randomly. I was afraid she would fall or spill something on herself. She did eventually quit but is now struggling financially. She really needed the money I guess.

...so they created a reason by harassing and threatening him?

Kroger is a shit weasel outfit- they just got popped stealing workers wages repeatedly. I go to Schnucks or Costco.

Bastards, you were a kid!

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Produce and bakery was the worst.

Reading this story I get the feeling that the individual coworkers were the most culpable for this situation, not corporate. I hope some consequence is felt by them.

Never doubt the value of being able to tell someone “go fuck yourself.”

I worked at Kroger in GA. It was only like 3 months but I was miserable the entire time. Very racist and just a bad experience. They had me train a girl and the next week she had my job and I was fired for no real reason. Never even got a talking to. I came early and left late everyday. I was deeply depressed and trying to be home not so much so I worked all the shitty shifts and did extra work.

Just..fire him

As soon as he claimed it to be a hoax to discredit him, he sealed the fates of millions as his followers looked to politicians for advice on pathology over pathologists.

It should be criminal.

Sadly sexual harassment is quite commonplace at job were younger people work. They basically get away with it because most are too afraid to speak up.

As you now know, corporations don't give a rat's ass about you no matter what you do for them. An employee is only valuable until the next comes along to do your job for less money. You can die on the job and you'll be replaced in a day or two. Avoid going above and beyond because they will come to expect it from you. Do what you're getting paid to do and nothing more.

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Grocery stores in general are shitty jobs. They are run my small men/women managers who are abusive because they peaked and that kid helping out to afford college is their number one enemy because they represent all those lost and dashed dreams of something better than making a front end schedule.

I worked for one grocery store in my life and never again. The times of being threatened with losing my job because I had to go to class and my manager would schedule me during classes was insane. And the union rep was the dumbest fucking guy in the building.

And lodge a complaint perhaps. For what it's worth. https://www.kroger.com/hc/help/contact-us/customer-comments

The United stated military would be the best example.

That'll be hard to do once they complete their grocery monopoly.

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Not just overtime, it also means you worked full-time hours. Many of these retail stores intentionally keep people below 40 hours so that they never have to consider giving them benefits.

Back in my retail days, I worked exactly 39 hours per week, every week. If I was approaching 40, a manager would tell me to clock out and go home, regardless of whether or not I was needed.

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There are are anti trust and monopoly laws on the books. Unfortunately they are not being enforced.

Yet another reason to absolutely hate conservatives. Heartless, soulless, human monsters who thrive off inflicting pain.

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The managers at the warehouse I sometimes work at have this belief. We sometimes go there (we have three warehouses around the city) to help produce our products which literally has us standing in one position not moving unless to grab a small box a few feet away…and when we complained about no chairs (which the main warehouse we work at has), they said it would slow down production. I’m literally putting a product in a box and handing it down a line to get batched and put in master cases. I don’t move most of the time and they still want us to stand for the entirety of the day. Oh, but the managers can sit down just fine

not childish. murderous.

> We never thought about our actions could lead to that

Of course not. They know about actions and consequences, but that the two might be linked in some way never really occurred to them.

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It is. The person who sent it belongs in a windowless cell for a few decades.

Yes. Full-on harassment.

I had folks begin behaving bizzarely while soma random chick fired up. Spoke with my supervisors who were nice and settled the issue then people were transferred and the company tried to put me under the oversight of the folks who were responsible. Still left on good terms. Wore my mask to protect customers. This story is not surprising. My colleagues knew I wasn't violent antifa but some lady kept rising up to speak about antifa having been political previously.

Yep, this is what gave me chronic plantar fasciitis that required me to have surgery in both feet 🙃

This is not true. For me personally it gave me chronic foot issues that only surgery in both feet was able to fix.

Probably diffent for some but generally people who do their work sitting down are worse of, based on the research ive seen