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HardDriveAndWingMan t1_j6rjh7k wrote

Except there’s no convincing evidence they have been misused. I’m sure some has, but to what degree is completely unknown. Could be insignificant or could be significant. What you’re working with is assumption, which is worth a lot less than this report.

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senorcoach t1_j6ro3rl wrote

I'm just saying that even if the Treasury had found that there was widespread corruption, it wouldn't be announced. Whether or not there is, I have no idea.

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HardDriveAndWingMan t1_j6rp2dw wrote

Maybe, maybe not. We know about all the money lost in Afghanistan because of several reports written by official US government audits. And at least this time around we’re giving the money to people who are highly motivated to use it they we way we intend it to be used.

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senorcoach t1_j6rql98 wrote

If you are talking about the SIGAR reports, the only problem with that is it was so far down the road. Were there other prior investigations?

Of course, it definitely seems like Ukraine is much more willing to fight against Russia than Afghanistan was against the Taliban. But it would also be a bit foolish to overlook that government corruption isn't exactly uncommon in Ukraine. It's absolutely something that every country, who is giving aid to Ukraine, should be considering and looking in to.

But, hypothetically, would it better serve the US government's goals for Ukraine to admit that some funds were being misused or deny it now and then admit years later after the war is ended (or until so much time has passed that the war effort has already fallen out of public favor for other reasons)?

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HardDriveAndWingMan t1_j6rrp25 wrote

There were earlier reports but you still make a valid point. I’m still going to wait for evidence to the contrary before I feel the need to call bullshit.

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DJKoolJerk t1_j6upcj6 wrote

What's the point in embezzling yourself a Mercedes S-Class if the money you stole makes it possible for Russians to knock down your house and steal your car?

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