PeliPal t1_j9vigyt wrote
Reply to comment by MajesticOuting in Kaiser Permanente Sued Over Hormone Therapy by derpwild
Transphobes tell us over and over that detransitioning is all over the place, there's hundreds of thousands or millions of detransitioners - and yet they only know about the one or two political operatives circulating on right-wing media. And they can't point to any peer-reviewed study showing detransition due to not actually being transgender (as opposed to detransition because of poverty or discrimination) is more common than being struck by lighting.
Even Joe Rogan had to correct pedophilia-activist Matt Walsh that he had inflated the number of teens on puberty blockers by a hundred times what it actually is. They don't care about facts.
Sheeple_person t1_j9vvlla wrote
You know you're really spewing bullshit when Joe Rogan is fact-checking you.
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Cranktique t1_j9w0vfa wrote
Idk, I’ve seen him do it lots. During the whole anti-vax thing he real time fact checked a lot of people. They’d make a claim and he’d tell his dude to look it up and debunk the claims right there. It’s one thing I don’t think he gets enough credit for.
SmokesQuantity t1_j9xfbnb wrote
He should learn to fact check himself
Cranktique t1_j9z1oyt wrote
For real he should. I am not a fan, I find him arrogantly ignorant, but I have a coworker that watches him on YouTube constantly and I have seen him pull fact checks on quite a few people. Was rather surprised.
dostoevsky4evah t1_j9x8ake wrote
Maybe but the fact checking on Matt Walsh was utterly spectacular.
tyler1128 t1_j9w4ppf wrote
Ironically, there's a study posted to /r/science near the top right now that puts the regret rate around 0.3%. That's better than most surgery.
Deskanar t1_j9y0kik wrote
Semi-true: that study is showing people who decide to get their surgery reversed. People express regret at around a 2% rate for gender-confirming surgeries…compared to around 13% for elective surgeries in general, so still way, way better.
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WaterHaven t1_j9vq69p wrote
Depressingly laughed at peer-reviewed study. Anti-education, anti-science people would only double down if they saw something of that nature.
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InTheEndEntropyWins t1_j9yuwch wrote
>Transphobes tell us over and over that detransitioning is all over the place, there's hundreds of thousands or millions of detransitioners - and yet they only know about the one or two
Well obviously your aren't going to have thousands wanting to go on media tours. If you want to get a better gauge then look at how many are suing in class action lawsuits.
In the UK a large number of suing the NHS, plus the Tavistock clinic which was responsible got closed down as a results and reviews are ongoing.
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>The Tavistock gender clinic is facing mass legal action from youngsters who claim they were rushed into taking life-altering puberty blockers.
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>Lawyers expect about 1,000 families to join a medical negligence lawsuit alleging vulnerable children have been misdiagnosed and placed on a damaging medical pathway.
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>https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tavistock-gender-clinic-to-be-sued-by-1-000-families-lbsw6k8zd
PeliPal t1_j9zjtfx wrote
The source is tabloid yellow journalism - no '1,000 families' EVER materialized. The number was a complete lie, you can't google it and find any source actually corroborating a number or names that isn't quoting anonymous 'lawyers'. You only find that The Times article that originated it, and various rightwing and Christian evangelist op-eds repeating it. And the Tavistock clinic was set to be replaced with multiple new gender clinics to handle higher capacity.
InTheEndEntropyWins t1_j9zoaez wrote
>The source is tabloid yellow journalism - no '1,000 families' EVER materialized. The number was a complete lie, you can't google it
How many was it then?
>. You only find that The Times article that originated it, and various rightwing and Christian evangelist op-eds repeating it.
It was in left and right wing papers.
>And the Tavistock clinic was set to be replaced with multiple new gender clinics to handle higher capacity.
It feels like you are trying to rewrite history about why it closed. It was closed due to reviews about it's failing. It wasn't just closed to make room for more centres.
The type of treatement and aproach needed to be completely changed.
>Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust has been told to shut the clinic by spring after it was criticised in an independent review.
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>Instead, new regional centres will be set up to "ensure the holistic needs" of patients are fully met, the NHS said.
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>https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-62335665
Pick whatever left wing paper you want and read their articles on Tavistock.
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