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zsreport t1_j9ucet5 wrote

You had to be pretty nuts to have been donating to them in the first place.

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pegothejerk t1_j9umse5 wrote

“Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money!”

-George Carlin

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leilaniko t1_j9v6ob3 wrote

If I see ANOTHER George Carlin quote today lol Reddit loves quoting him and I see why, but I feel like I'm in a deathloop reading the same comments on different threads.

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pegothejerk t1_j9v8elf wrote

“Never underestimate the power of stupid people in a large group.” — George Carlin

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leilaniko t1_j9v8s20 wrote

"The planet is fine. The people are fucked" - George Carlin

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Zhang5 t1_j9vk1rt wrote

"Go fuck yourself"

  • George Carlin
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SpiritPaper t1_j9z7pmu wrote

"Sir Topham Hatt was cross."

  • George Carlin as Mr. Conductor
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zsreport t1_j9uo5jw wrote

I'm sure there's plenty of good charities connected to Islam, so if people want to donate for religious reasons, they can donate to those, not the fucking Taliban, which is just men using religion to justify their regressive patriarchal fantasy.

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blahbleh112233 t1_j9uqugb wrote

Its the conundrum we face with NK too. On one hand, 90% of the money probably goes towards the ruling elite, but on the other hand, that 10% is still preventing some people from starving.

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zsreport t1_j9uru1f wrote

Your comment reminded me of this old incident involving giant rabbits that were meant to set up a breeding program to help alleviate famine in North Korea:

"Bunny boiler: Kim Jong-il ate my giant rabbits"

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pegothejerk t1_j9usi4q wrote

> Pyongyang's embassy in Berlin has denied the rabbits are dead.

No, no, 'e's uh,...he's resting.

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Valyrian_Kobolds t1_j9v7phm wrote

There's lots of places to donate to that will alleviate human suffering more efficiently than donating towards regimes that will obviously steal the money to enrich themselves.

Unfortunately, we can't help everyone, so we reach the ones who are closest or easiest to lend a hand to.

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blahbleh112233 t1_j9vao9y wrote

With places locked down like NK and the Taliban? Not really since they won't let them in. But that's the rub I guess.

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Valyrian_Kobolds t1_j9vax3a wrote

I mean like... Mosquito nets in Africa (although malaria is less of an issue) because they're cheap and there wasn't bureaucracy preventing the help. or helping dig wells in those places.

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blahbleh112233 t1_j9vbhlk wrote

Yeah. I'm more specifically referring to totalitarian regimes that won't let NGO's in. Like NK is suffering massively from COVID, but they won't let the red cross do their thing independently at all.

And don't forget that the entire Black Hawk Down episode happened because Somali warlords were essentially robbing people of their food allotments right after they got out of sight of the UN peacekeepers.

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swheels125 t1_j9wsolw wrote

I’d imagine it’s the same problem the international community is facing in trying to help earthquake victims in Syria. How many aid workers would even go? And who would donate money to the “government” of a failed state where we know the money wouldn’t be going to the right places?

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the_unkempt_one t1_j9vesxr wrote

Oh hey, you’re either getting downvoted for suggesting there may be good charities connected to Islam, or for suggesting the Taliban use religion to keep men in power.

I legit wonder which it is?

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IceColdPorkSoda t1_j9w71gg wrote

I think it’s for suggesting that their faith is being used in a cynical fashion, and that it has little to do with genuine religious fervor.

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chadthecrawdad t1_jabhrv0 wrote

Maybe not exactly that , maybe nothing to do with the Bible at all, but I’m telling you , better watch it, the world is a strange place and we don’t even know much about the reality we’re in or can’t even explain how quantum entanglement works, double slit experiments, premonitions, etc so it may very well be some learning thing is the only reason you’re in that physical body in this physical world and I really high right now I’m going to go on and babble about blackholes or something now

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BridgetheDivide t1_j9v83wu wrote

The Sauds were bankrolling them, just like they're funding most Islamic extremists around the world. America is no longer being kept occupied in the region so there's no longer a reason for them to fund a failed state.

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Sanpaku t1_j9usdix wrote

Depends on what you're donating.

Buying food in-country or elsewhere, so that fewer Afghans starve, might be justified on short term ethical grounds. But spending money on bribes and other corruption in country, ultimately to prop up this anti-human, anti-modernity state, is unproductive.

Back up and look across nations, and over longer timespans, and it may be a net benefit to humanity if Afghanistan under the Taliban rule becomes a cautionary tale, despite the humanitarian cost within the country. Also, if a nation cannot afford to feed itself without resort to opiate exports that harm the rest of the world, perhaps its citizens should be left to solve this without external assistence.

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reconrose t1_j9widdr wrote

>Back up and look across nations, and over longer timespans, and it may be a net benefit to humanity if Afghanistan under the Taliban rule becomes a cautionary tale, despite the humanitarian cost within the country. Also, if a nation cannot afford to feed itself without resort to opiate exports that harm the rest of the world, perhaps its citizens should be left to solve this without external assistence.

I think this kinda assumes Afghanistan has not been significantly influenced by outside forces that have helped put it in the place it's in today. The opiate trade doesn't exist without consumers after all, especially those whose governments kept it alive.

The outside world came and took what it wanted from Afghanistan and propped up extremist organizations while it did so and now gets to peace out and go "beware"?

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MeatsimPD t1_j9wlfi6 wrote

> You had to be pretty nuts to have been donating to them in the first place

If you read the first paragraph of the article it's about donations to people and causes in Afghanistan, not donating to the Taliban

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clgoodson t1_j9ym7l8 wrote

You think, those things are different?

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MeatsimPD t1_j9yocs5 wrote

I used to work in humanitarian aide on Afghanistan, yes they are very different

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