niceguybadboy t1_j955p98 wrote on February 19, 2023 at 8:56 AM

Reply to comment by Thegarbagegamer97 in 1 person dies when Tesla hits fire truck on I-680, 4 firefighters injured by twelveparsnips

But...for every dumb mistake an AI driver makes, human drivers probably make fifty.

Thegarbagegamer97 t1_j95684x wrote on February 19, 2023 at 9:03 AM

Likely so, but in cases of mistakes like this, if the self driving was in use, i have to go with human drivers simply for the ability to make sense and at least attempt to navigate/slowdown/stop in response as needed. The AI seems in the beginning stage of development where it says “hmm, that looks like road so full speed ahead”, which most people, assuming they aren’t distracted, or under the influence of some substance will see flashing lights and a big object blocking the road and try to navigate around the firetruck, not plow through it like their in some action film. Some day im sure self driving will get there, but we are a LONG way off

ViciousNakedMoleRat t1_j958sau wrote on February 19, 2023 at 9:39 AM

With automated driving the question is simply: How much more do we value an overall reduction of crashes compared to having to live with crashes that a driving human would've easily avoided?

On a societal level, we should theoretically be in favor of self-driving cars as soon as they cause fewer crashes than human-operated cars – even if it's just a couple of percent.

However, on a personal level, it probably takes a much more significant rate to convince many individual drivers. That's because a vast majority of drivers thinks of themselves as above average.

The perceived stupidity of automated driving accidents, like driving straight into objects or coming to a stop in the middle of the road makes them particularly likely to be picked up by the media, which raises the exposure of people to these issues. The hundreds of daily crashes caused by inattention or other human error just slide by without being noticed.

This causes a similar situation as fear of flying. It's much safer to fly than to drive a car, but plane crashes become huge news stories, which causes some people to develop an irrational fear of flying, while having no issue with driving.

Thegarbagegamer97 t1_j959416 wrote on February 19, 2023 at 9:43 AM

Self driving will be a wonderful thing one day, but when it has the potential to break laws by ignoring the rules of certain areas of roadway, and to plow straight on into a stalled out or stopped vehicle like theres nothing there, i think ill hold off on it just a little longer and keep my personal judgement capabilities. Humans arent perfect drivers, i dont expect AI to be either. But id rather prefer not having to babysit the entire time simply because it can have a tendency to suicide rush a fire truck or go straight from a turn only lane.