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BigOlPirate t1_j97ch9r wrote

Wild cattle destroying the eco system: let’s break out the chopper and kill ‘em

Mean while the ranchers are letting their cows free graze and roam this same land. It’s bad for the ecosystem when the wild are cattle doing it, but just a woopsie and no consequence when ranches cut down fences and let their cattle graze on park land.

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Fickle-Hovercraft667 t1_j97lbnq wrote

Dude, I could go on about this forever. I lived in the mountains of Colorado for many years and I love wilderness camping. The problem was that BLM lets cows graze on their land.

Nothing is more frustrating than showing up at your favorite wilderness spot and having to dodge the immense amount of cow shit and then having whole herds come through your campsite.

We also had a huge wild horse population nearby that BLM decided to round up a huge amount of because “there’s not enough grazing and they’ll starve!” They used helicopters and separated foals from mothers, stallions were powerless to keep their herds safe and some were circling their captured mares and foals trying to figure out how to get them out.

Two weeks later a video was posted from the same valley and there were THOUSANDS of sheep grazing. They basically used the starvation excuse to get a majority of the wild horses out of the way so ranchers could graze their sheep with minimal grazing competition.

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dirk_on_reddit t1_j97mup6 wrote

To alleviate any confusion: BLM in this case is Bureau of Land Management, not Black Lives Matter.

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Draano t1_j97y9aw wrote

Lol. There's an airport by me with the three-letter code of BLM. Since I'm in a red county in a blue state, I thought I could stir up the local Rs by saying our D governor renamed it for the BLM vote.

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Slapbox t1_j985zdg wrote

> Since I'm in a red county in a blue state, I thought I could stir up the local Rs by saying our D governor renamed it for the BLM vote.

Please don't - you know they'll believe it and they're deep enough into their victimhood complex that it can only become worse.

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WhizEagle t1_j9e0td3 wrote

40 years ago it was sarcastically referred to as Bureau of Livestock and Mining. Corrupt corrupt corrupt

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tractiontiresadvised t1_j9e3hd9 wrote

"Livestock and Mining" is pretty much what it was designed to be, not sarcastically. It was created by the merger of the US Grazing Service and the General Land Office, the latter of which managed mineral rights (among other things).

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BigOlPirate t1_j97mznw wrote

I hate all of this. Gives me Yellowstone (only seen the 1st season) vibes with the corruption and power ranchers have in rural areas.

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SteelCityIrish t1_j97zmvr wrote

See “Ammon Bundy”

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techleopard t1_j9c68dz wrote

I said it back then and I still say it: the government encourages their BS by being too chickenshit to just kill all the unpermitted cattle from helicopter and then cut off the area and just wait. Arrest them as they come out. Seize every child present and place in foster care, because their parents only brought them to use them as meat shields.

Never understood why Oregon let people go get the second group go get supplies, it made the standoff last so much longer.

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captcha_trampstamp t1_j98sztj wrote

Then all those mustangs go into holding pens all over the west, standing around eating hay on the taxpayer dime.

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HappyFunNorm t1_j9awoit wrote

Grazing herds have been part of the ecosystem in the west for thousands of years. They've only been gone for like 100, 150 years. Thos ecosystems SHOULD have large grazing animals in them. And wolves.

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