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MeatsimPD t1_j93osiy wrote

> And you're pretending the settlements are specifically displacing existing communities to move in Israeli communities. That's not happening

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2017/06/israel-occupation-50-years-of-dispossession/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/20/land-beyond-road-forbidden-israeli-settler-shepherds-displacing-palestinians

https://www.nrc.no/shorthand/stories/in-the-west-bank-segregated-roads-displace-palestinians/index.html

No one can honestly say that all the land occupied by Israeli settlers was empty or unowned prior to their arrival. Honestly you've just made one of the most absurd statements about the West Bank I've ever heard, so absurd I have to believe it's a deliberate lie because no one could be so misinformed

>As for Gaza, they removed them first and have Hamas now. There's zero chance Israel is making the same mistake

Are you telling me that the rise of Hamas in Gaza is because Israel removed it's settlements?

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freshgeardude t1_j93ql9a wrote

Did a single settlement consist of kicking out Palestinians, razing it, and building a Jewish community ontop or are you going to send me articles about animals grazing or roads being put up?

>Are you telling me that the rise of Hamas in Gaza is because Israel removed it's settlements?

No I'm saying the one time settlements were preemptively removed has lead to countless wars with Hamas. Israel isn't leaving the west Bank willingly and the majority settlment blocks are never going to be evacuated. Both sides know this and land swaps have already in theory been agreed on

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MeatsimPD t1_j93sumo wrote

> Did a single settlement consist of kicking out Palestinians, razing it, and building a Jewish community ontop or are you going to send me articles about animals grazing or roads being put up?

I honestly believe you being deliberately obtuse if you're going to tell me it doesn't matter to people whose livelihoods is raising animals whether or not they have access to grazing lands.

But to answer your question the answer is yes, here's some examples

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rehelim

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brukhin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modi%27in_Illit

And here are the camps many of the people who have lost their homes now live in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_refugee_camps

Even today Palestinian homes are being torn down https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/israel-ramps-up-demolition-of-palestinian-homes-in-jerusalem

>Israel isn't leaving the west Bank willingly and the majority settlment blocks are never going to be evacuated.

I don't disagree, Israel's military occupation is permanent for the foreseeable future, but none of this changes the facts:

Fact 1) The West Bank is not part of Israel's territory

Fact 2) Annexing territory by force is against international law

Fact 3) Settling your citizens on seized lands outside of your state's territory is against international law.

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