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rTpure t1_j8jq2wk wrote

4 students shot and it doesn't even make national headlines because these shootings have become so common

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SuitableNegotiation5 t1_j8jz8df wrote

Oh, well. Just another shooting. Let's just go back to not doing anything about this epidemic.

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calmdwnnchill t1_j8k923p wrote

Why is it titled Juvenile? That supposed to make those kids lives worth less? You don’t have to be the perfect person to have the right to life

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bighead1008 t1_j8k98ml wrote

I remember when we didn't get daily updates on school shootings. How did we ever get by back then?............/s

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ledow t1_j8khjeo wrote

Replying to rTpure (#1,810,759)

Do something?

I mean, it's not that any individual wields any particular amount of power but have you, say, given up a firearm, convinced others to do so, rethought your firearm requirements, etc. etc. etc.?

The UK had one single school shooting 27 years ago.

People literally CHANGED THEIR BEHAVIOUR. We were not a gunless country, never have been and still aren't. There are 1m firearms in the UK.

But what we did is handed weapons in, decided whether we really needed them, tried to do something about stopping it, even if it was only a token gesture unlikely to actually prevent another such shooting.

We now have a reputation for being "gun-less", because it was so effective.

And there hasn't been a school shooting in 27 years. ONE shooting, and we said "enough", we handed back weapons that we had no need for and some that we had a need for but found other ways.

I know three people who were gun-owners at the time. They all voluntarily gave in their weapons then or shortly after.

Such that - in my lifetime - I have never seen, held, or fired a weapon and don't know anyone who has one.

If you don't *DO SOMETHING*, even small token personal gestures, or large legislative changes, literally nothing is ever going to get changed, and the situation will only deteriorate further.

I work for a school and was discussing an access control system over a video conference the other day with the US manufacturer to resolve some technical issues. We were talking about what happens if someone loses their card, what if a door closes behind a child, what happens to the doors in a fire, etc.

They went on to talk about lockdown. I had to explain that - though it is a legal requirement for us to have a lockdown procedure - we are not obliged to ever actually lock down and I've never been in a genuine lockdown. Our requirements for a lockdown were very lax and most of what they were trying to make us do and configure wasn't at all necessary. I had to get them to factor in that our most likely usage of such a facility is actually probably a dog loose in the playground.

I mentioned the "27 years since our only ever school shooting" to the programmers and support people that I was talking to. They didn't believe me and had to google it. They were shocked.

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Nek0Neko t1_j8l58je wrote

Nikki Haley will be so proud

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badhairdad1 t1_j8ln877 wrote

The cost of 2a is paid everyday in American blood and lives of its children 🇺🇸

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s_ox t1_j8mujjp wrote

Replying to badhairdad1 (#1,814,964)

Not just that, we pay monetarily too because of increased security costs everywhere we go, and opportunity costs because we avoid some neighborhoods (for business/housing) because they have had gun violence. It also makes the police treat more people badly and kill some because it is a very acceptable thing (apparently) to say: “I thought I saw a gun, I feared for my life”. It is a much, much bigger cost than people realize.

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