Queasy_Good_5485 t1_j90cr54 wrote
What kind of research is this ? So people should try to get infected instead of getting vaccinated
mikemd1 t1_j91iyj7 wrote
It's a meta analysis published in the extremely well respected peer reviewed journal lancet. It looks at 65 studies from 19 countries. I'd wager its extremely high quality research unless this Doctor from UCSF has decided to put his entire career in jeopardy.
dmtjiminarnnotatrdr t1_j91jqfy wrote
There's nothing to put in jeopardy. The author basically concludes that while there's a correlation with strong immunity, there's confounding factors and the high risk of hospitalization, disability, and death makes vaccination the better option over being unvaccinated infection.
saintpetejackboy t1_j90gjve wrote
What if you didn't try to do either? Nobody should try to get infected. Uninfected people should get vaccines. People that had coronavirus a dozen times probably don't need the vaccine.
Imagine COVID 19 is the black plague. Imagine the vaccine is blood letting. If I had the black plague and recovered - I probably don't need to let the doctor bleed me.
Vaccine doesn't prevent infection. Vaccine also could carry risks, even theoretical. If you say "vaccine is risk free!" Then you are just taking random nonsense.
There are always risks.
Even at .0000000001%.
No medication is 100% safe None.
If you had coronavirus before, the vaccine might not be for you: it is a compound risk (no matter how small)
This is not politics. You can userleans me if you want. These are facts. Nobody should be forced to get any kind of medical procedure, including a vaccine.
Liberals are always heavy on assisted suicide, abortion, and other stuff: why not let crazy old people catch covid and die to reduce the burden on social security and other entitlement programs? If they are dumb enough to refuse vaccine and die of covid, who the fuck are YOU to force them to make only decisions you agree with?
That's right: nobody. So sit down, shut up, fight your virus (or take your vaxx!) And stop trying to worry about the next person and what they chose to do and what their solutions were.
If the vaccine prevented you from catching the virus or spreading it, this would be a different conversion. It doesn't.
Queasy_Good_5485 t1_j90hh5x wrote
How did you get through schooling without being vaccinated? What is with you people and the Covid vaccine? It just sounds stupid to say, look getting infected is better than getting vaccinated. If you don't trust the science, don't trust the science on all the desperate measures doctors take up in ERs to rescue you . I remember the time all the anti-vaxxers were hogging up ERs after falling badly ill during the delta wave abd getting pumped up with all kinds of steroids and experimental monoclonal antibodies. Public health is not liberal or conservative . Do what helps the society . This was especially true in the first couple of years when many lives were lost to much stronger variants than omicron.
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saintpetejackboy t1_j91i0ts wrote
You misread, or I explained bad, sorry. I am not anti vaxx and I have taken every vaccine except the COVID vaccine.
If I hadn't had COVID numerous times by the time the vaccine came out, I would have DEFINITELY taken it.
I am about as pro vaxx as you can get, it just isn't for me. In my own personal scenario, I also have an underlying kind of autoimmune disorder (a vicious chronic urticaria that primarily manifests through any rapid change in body temperature, that has left me hospitalized and unable to breathe when I was younger).
Catching COVID any of the numerous times I have had it also caused me some kind of cardiovascular problems and gave me basically POTS (which seems to have maybe cleared up) and worse shit.
It is super annoying when people go "you should have taken the vaccine!", as before the vaccine was available, people like me were already catching the virus and having recovered. I remember getting tested and having both active virus and antibodies, and the logic back then just a few years ago was "lol to can't get the same virus twice, so you obviously didn't have it the first time".
By first time, I mean in January of 2021, I was hospitalized with a debilitating cough that was crippling me and making it impossible to breathe. They chalked it up to an "unknown viral infection" and sent me home. Keep in mind, my very good friend was also very sick and had just come back from Italy.
Living in Florida around a ton of people who absolutely refuse to wear masks or gloves or anything doesn't help at all for trying to avoid stuff like that. :)
But yeah, for clarification, I am not anti vaxx.
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