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epidemicsaints t1_j85n5x8 wrote

Is there something about being trapped in rubble that helps people survive longer without water? I see this in cave entrapments too. I'm thinking being immobilized, your body temperature being insulated, and maybe losing less water to respiration because of the confined space might be a factor. I know 6 days isn't unheard of but it is absolutely toward the maximum of time you can survive without.

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Zugas t1_j8679xw wrote

It’s close to freezing, makes no sense they still find survivors. Pretty amazing.

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masterofshadows t1_j86fwic wrote

There's a saying in medicine that you're not dead til you're warm and dead. Cold slows a lot of processes, and makes you survive longer.

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LeahBrahms t1_j89z03w wrote

Couple of floors of insulation (concreete) could be insulating. After all igloos work?

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rabidstoat t1_j86qv8d wrote

People who are found many days later have a source of water, enough to keep them alive, through something like rainfall.

In the Sampoong department store collapse in South Korea, the last surivor was rescued 17 days after the collapse with only a few scratches.

More details here.

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DaanGFX t1_j87c6rj wrote

> and a man rescued after nine days reported that other trapped survivors had drowned from the rain and from the water used for fire suppression.[12]

New fear unlocked. Holy shit.

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Wolfwoods_Sister t1_j8729lb wrote

Oh god, I remember this story. The sheer greed and incompetence killing so many people and then the guilty convictions brought so little prison time. Made me sick to read it again.

I didn’t know that ppl had drowned during the fire fighting efforts. That kills my heart. Those poor ppl.

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cutebabies0626 t1_j88t7pk wrote

I was a kid in Korea when this happened, I remember watching this news vividly. My mom went to this department store before as well when we were living in Seoul. She was super shocked when this happened.

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Brief-Mulberry-3839 t1_j86l292 wrote

I think the "3 days without water..." is an estimation, but everyone is built differently, and don't underestimate the will to survive

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whopperlover17 t1_j86xgbw wrote

I’d imagine 3 days with barely moving is also different

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TSL4me t1_j87j56g wrote

I'm an alcoholic so can last 14 hours.

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jwm3 t1_j8cj3nk wrote

Yeah, it's a very rough estimate. 3 minutes without air, 3 days without water, and 3 months without food. Or 3 weeks without food before you start risking injury but you have to go a lot longer to die.

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dkyguy1995 t1_j85y7mn wrote

While it's great we are still finding survivors it just shows what kind of a race against time the rescuers are facing :(

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Trampy_stampy t1_j85hz2t wrote

I’ve never thought to be bothered by this. It seems pertinent for a number of reasons. You would prefer not knowing any numbers until the final tally? That’s interesting. Does it apply to other things too?
I have a different brain about certain things and have never heard this particular complaint so I’m curious. I hope it’s ok to ask questions!

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NoodlesrTuff1256 t1_j85q7ed wrote

150,000+?! Doing the math -- if most of those people are dead, the final death toll from this disaster will end up anywhere between 175,000 and 200,000. And that's not counting the secondary deaths that might take place if contagious diseases like cholera take hold.

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Vault-71 t1_j85iyav wrote

Every day the number grows is a day the Turkish people should feel angry that greed and corruption led to so much tragedy.

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raven3lise t1_j85jajz wrote

This is a new take for me to see on this topic... Do you have links to stuff elaborating on this? I assume you're talking about how the construction of these buildings to not be able to withstand the shocks?

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Vault-71 t1_j85jp86 wrote

Here's at least one source on the topic:

https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/10/turkey-earthquake-erdogan-government-response-corruption-construction/

And yes, by greed and corruption I'm referring to the corner-cutting and inspection bribes that led many buildings to collapse unnecessarily.

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