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johnn48 t1_jeflnlx wrote

With the acceptance of Finland to NATO, Russia has effectively been blocked from attacking Sweden without a response from NATO. In addition the formation of a coordinated air defense between the Nordic Countries will be an effective deterrent to any Russian aggression. So Sweden has effectively become a NATO member without having to kowtow to Erdogan.


Mastr_Blastr t1_jefnuj5 wrote

To add, the US and UK have also pledged to defend these countries should they be attacked during this application process.


greihund t1_jefevmc wrote

I don't know why it wasn't mentioned in this article, but it is widely assumed that Sweden's bid will fly through the ratification process in Turkey as soon as it's called. That's part of the reason he hasn't called it: he's got an election coming up. He's trying to show what a strong leader he is, getting the northern Europeans to do things on his terms, while also hoping to get rid of a few old political rivals and enemies who have taken shelter there. It'll probably pass quickly after the election, no matter who wins.


jayfeather31 t1_jegcrfy wrote

Sweden is a defacto member of NATO anyway, so this isn't the worst outcome.


TheThebanProphet t1_jef8tc9 wrote

As much as I am to loathe the fact that the Turkish government is holding Swedish support for the Kurds over their head, I think the realpolitikal move as the Swedes would be to pay enough lip service to the tyrant Erdogan to make him happy while continuing to support Kurdish independence and self determination under the table until they are ratified.

Alternatively the Turkish government could take a minute out of their 500+ (including Ottoman) year existence and just stop being a bunch of shitters.


greihund t1_jefeal8 wrote

The people who Erdogan wants deported from Sweden aren't Kurds. They're political enemies who he claims took part in that 'attempted coup' he staged a few years ago so that he could lock up his rivals, progressives and thousands of schoolteachers.