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SheriffComey t1_jby7sx6 wrote

Having worked for state and local government your kind of thinking is NOT rewarded.

And often your concerns are ignored multiple times and you're told "Just do what we said".

Don't get me started on projects that require municipalities, the state, and the federal government to work together.

Also municipalities often use money in ways that has the shortest ROI. We, the state, told one that we'd be redesigning the medians in the next month so they need to hold off on planting their new landscaping plans. They did it anyway because they knew that not only could they get the state to reimburse them for that, but sue the state and get more money to do whatever they wanted as it was likely not earmarked.

Oh and that municipality blamed the state for everything and the city council members used it as reelection fodder.

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Flimsy-Lie-1471 t1_jby9a4v wrote

I guess that is the way where you live. Honestly about a dozen years ago several communities in my local area took on a multi year project updating all the underground utilities; water, sewer and gas lines. They even put some of the electric underground at the time. It was a pain in the ass for about three years, but it was done and everyone is happy with the result. I know part of the money was from the 2008 bailout, but the rest was financed.

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SheriffComey t1_jbybarl wrote

You're talking local and sure if you have enough people, money, and professions(i.e. lawyers) willing to put in the work and for years, sure you can get shit done. My community was able to stop a planned roadway expansion behind it but took 7 years and nearly every lawyer living there to help throw their weight in for many years.

But again, that's local and in small areas. Start trying to get cities, counties, and states to do that and consistently.

I worked with multiple State DOTs and my stories here in Florida DOT are the same in at least 30 other states.

Small municipalities (even business owners)can be a huge fuckin thorn in state projects, especially roadway widening but to do it across the board and constantly and definitely where infrastructure is concerned.... good luck without metric fuck ton of work and the need to have huge portions of the community and frankly most people are too busy working to even know what's going on .

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goldybear t1_jbyhba2 wrote

That’s a pretty flimsy lie 😏

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