Panzer1119 t1_jdva65c wrote
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The problem are the people who think this increase would be a problem.
No_more_hiding t1_jdvbsx1 wrote
What kind of person thinks it's not a problem? Hateful people. Crikey, there's no reasoning with broken human beings with no moral compass.
Panzer1119 t1_jdvfm42 wrote
Because the people writing that stuff didn’t begin to think that way just because Elon took over Twitter.
They are real people with real concerns or just hate. Just censoring them won’t help, it makes them even more angry.
No_more_hiding t1_jdvp470 wrote
No, it inflames and normalises hate. It makes it seem acceptable. Just read any history about normalised hate speech and what happens. Read about how to deal with anger - if you feed the wolf it grows. But presumably you are not in one of the minorities that this hate is directed towards, so you think it's ok and don't feel threatened, and empathy is not your strong point
Panzer1119 t1_jdvq8nf wrote
You don’t have to be in no minority to not feel threatened.
That’s like the take "if you aren’t a women you don’t know much about female bodies".
No, a man, that studied the human anatomy for decades, probably knows much more about the (female) human body than an average woman.
No_more_hiding t1_jdvtk5f wrote
That doesn't make sense at all. You can know things on an academic level, but you will never know exactly what something feels like. I'm a woman and I know it hurts to be kicked in the balls but I don't know exactly what it feels like, likewise a man won't know exactly what having a period or giving birth feels like.
However some of us have empathy, but you clearly don't because you can't even imagine how it feels to have rising hate and calls for death and violence towards you because of a certain characteristic outside of your control.
Panzer1119 t1_jdvv8vr wrote
But I wasn’t talking about feelings, just knowledge.
It’s even the opposite, I can imagine the rising hate and violence of certain things outside of my control, because the cancel culture is something like this.
It’s outside of my control and it feels like hate against people who don’t support everything they say or do.
And it’s not just an exaggeration, my depression is partly due to the rising probability of "being canceled" for stuff that was misunderstood or that was arbitrarily or wrongly deemed bad.
No_more_hiding t1_jdw2ed2 wrote
I think you need to look up the definition of hate speech and examples of it. It's not saying something that could be misunderstood. It's saying something extremely blatant, hateful and often calls for violence. I'm not going to give examples because I don't want to be banned!
Your worries about cancel culture are disproportionate. Those people who are supposedly cancelled are usually still in the public eye, still spouting their views freely, but play the victim. Perhaps therapy would help if it's giving you depression to get reassurance that the things you're no likely reading online are not in actual fact happening.
Panzer1119 t1_jdwaxgu wrote
I wasn’t talking about hate speech, but the accusation of not having empathy or that I couldn’t imagine how it feels having rising hate.
There are indeed "cancel culture things" happening, I already experienced some, at least e.g. downvotes etc.
Or people that assume things about you that either aren’t true, way too exaggerated or couldn’t be known by them without direct proof (like for example the accusation of having no empathy).
No_more_hiding t1_jdwn3jp wrote
If you think hate speech is acceptable and are defending it, you have a seriously questionable understanding of empathy.
If you have depression because of downvotes and are afraid it means you're being cancelled, then you should look at getting some help with that.
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