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Themicroscoop t1_ituxwtg wrote

Most US Labs wouldn’t. We would refer the samples to the state laboratories in consultation with local health authorities.

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Beard_o_Bees t1_itvi0wg wrote

Totally.

Anything even potentially Ebola related should go straight to the highest levels.

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dat_GEM_lyf t1_itwh5h8 wrote

Most labs in the world aren’t BSL4. Clickbait title but what else is to be expected in 2022.

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Avulpesvulpes OP t1_itwne07 wrote

I don’t know that it’s necessarily clickbait. There’s a poorly controlled outbreak and a chance for the US to see imported cases..

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dat_GEM_lyf t1_ity70j2 wrote

Right but the more correct way to phrase the title then would be most labs can’t test for Ebola or any other BLS4 pathogen

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radicalelation t1_itv0yrl wrote

I, for one, want all US labs to carry resources for every disease and virus they are unlikely to ever encounter.

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dat_GEM_lyf t1_itwhcbm wrote

Also they should absolutely be the highest possible BSL rating especially if high level BSL work is never performed there. I want my barely BSL1 lab to be 4 plz papi big gooberment

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GoldilokZ_Zone t1_itvydvh wrote

Mate this is why people put /s in their comments like that...

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Ameisen t1_itw5w8g wrote

To be fair, any kind of mark for sarcasm completely ruins the impact.

And idiots who don't recognize sarcasm likely will just ignore a sarcasm mark anyways.

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Eliju t1_itv1prr wrote

I doubt that’s cost effective. Who the hell thought Ebola would be an issue in 2022?

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tricksterloki t1_itv8b64 wrote

Anyone that remembers the Ebola outbreak during the Obama administration, is aware of the ongoing increase in outbreaks and other tropical diseases, read The Hot Zone or Clear and Present Danger, or is currently having validation of their previously thought irrational fear.

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coelogyne_pandurata t1_itwdnvs wrote

Read the hot zone in 4th grade in like 1994 and it wrecked me for life

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podkayne3000 t1_itwqvdh wrote

The film "Contagion" is also excellent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contagion_(2011_film)

It got almost everything weirdly right, down to a quack drug that seems like a placeholder for ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine.

The only thing it got wrong is that it shows the CDC performing really well and continuing to enjoy a high level of respect.

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WrathOfTheHydra t1_itxkl5x wrote

I am so absolutely glad I didn't watch this until Covid hit. There hasn't been a movie that dropped my jaw like that in a long time. It's basically alternate-universe Covid. The few things they got wrong were either incredibly forgivable or simply for dramatic effect. What a movie.

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Eliju t1_itvc1n8 wrote

I just looked and didn’t realize there was such a big outbreak at that time. I guess I vaguely remember it now. But it’s been pretty calm since then for the most part.

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tricksterloki t1_itvcotw wrote

How about the outbreak last year started from a nurse that had been infected 5 yrs prior?

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Cacophonous_Silence t1_itw6qrs wrote

Oh we're all so fucked

Only have vaccines for the Zaire ebolavirus and probably ⅓ the US wouldn't get it anyways

This is a time bomb waiting to go off

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tricksterloki t1_itw823d wrote

Hopefully no one in the US general population needs to get it. As for the other strains, this is where mRNA vaccines will shine. They're quicker to make and development can start as soon as you have the virus's genetic sequence. Also on the upside, we have a president that was involved in the previous Ebola outbreak.

All these tropical and emergent viruses are time bombs. That monkey pox, a virus we were watching, managed to become endemic the world over and that we lucked out noticing that, signals the countdown has started.

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reddrighthand t1_itw2ilg wrote

Fuck. The Hot Zone. It's an entire book of clickbait.

Edit to double down, fuck that book and its exaggerations: https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2014/11/11/362379449/how-the-hot-zone-got-it-wrong-and-other-tales-of-ebolas-history

More:

https://www.mic.com/articles/95640/everything-you-know-about-ebola-is-wrong

https://gizmodo.com/how-the-hot-zone-created-the-worst-myths-about-ebola-1649384576

The man exaggerated the symptoms. He misled people about airborne spread. He described it moving "decisively.,"

Fuck that book.

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tricksterloki t1_itw38c6 wrote

Given when it was written Ebola wasn't known to the general public (1995) and it has good information, it's good for what it is. It's also proven relevant, because of current events. For a lay person, The Hot Zone is fine.

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pegothejerk t1_itvcyu4 wrote

BSL4 labs, the labs that can safely contain samples from pathogens that are high risk, cost hundreds of millions of dollars each to build. There's not enough money to convert every lab into a site that can test and accept such samples.

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slash_networkboy t1_itvhp8v wrote

>hundreds of millions of dollars each to build

About $1200 per square foot to build for perspective. Nevermind operational costs of several hundred per square foot monthly.

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coondingee t1_itwemjw wrote

So we can build a million labs that are only 1 sq ft for relatively cheap and then we could have them in every major city.

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dat_GEM_lyf t1_itwhh99 wrote

> there’s not enough money to convert every lab into BSL4

Not with that attitude

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mces97 t1_itvca83 wrote

Fauci. Maybe not Ebola, but I remember people saying how did he know Trump would face a pandemic if he wasn't involved. Uh because since 2000 there's been like 4? It's kinda is job you know? And when Ebola was going around in 2013, 14, or 15, forget the exact year, he treated the doctors and nurses at the NIH personally. They all lived.

I'm editing this because I shit you not when I was browsing Instagram a few minutes ago, I saw a video of Fauci talking about a surprise pandemic most likey will happen during Trump's term. And of course 90% of the comments said because he planned it. 🤦🏻‍♂️

I just copied what I said earlier. Why do people not believe anything anymore. It's ok to distrust and question the government. But not EVERYTHING is a made up conspiracy.

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Odie_Odie t1_itw6ni2 wrote

Utterly predictable. Ebola and Coronavirus will emerge anew again, it shouldn't surprise anyone.

Same reason we take avian and pork flu seriously every time their is a major outbreak in the respective species.

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ChallyPrime t1_itv5o28 wrote

Don't handle the dead. That's big way to spread. Oh, and keep Ebola patients isolated!

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Odie_Odie t1_itw6a9p wrote

Keep Ebola patients isolated forever* Come to find out it can lay dormant in the body for years before re emerging.

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The_Poster_Nutbag t1_itvfmy0 wrote

No you don't, most labs don't have the security/procedure to lock down such powerful pathogens.

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Avulpesvulpes OP t1_itv2z1d wrote

This comment is pointless given there is considerable risk for the outbreak to spillover and 140 travelers a day coming from Uganda per the CDC

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TheApprentice19 t1_itwm5nd wrote

This during the same week they found 31 million tons of gold there, coincidence?

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Avulpesvulpes OP t1_itwn785 wrote

So as I understand it, the outbreak started around that new mine since a lot of forest/natural habitat was probably destroyed by workers and brought them into contact with mammals that are the natural reservoir for Ebola

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Send_me_snoot_pics t1_itxlcod wrote

I remember in The Hot Zone they couldn’t even figure out which animal it was. There was a cave that people would go into that was filled with bat shit but they tested it and it was negative for Ebola virus

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Avulpesvulpes OP t1_itxvd7y wrote

I saw one theory from the Ugandan ministry of health that children were eating fallen mangoes that infected animals had partially eaten? It’s more likely infected bush meat though

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TheApprentice19 t1_itwpl9f wrote

This is shaping up to be the plot to the next Indians Jones Movie

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captcraigaroo t1_iu2sq44 wrote

Back in 2014 I was working in Angola out of Soyo. Came back home to the US, spent a night at home and then started driving 10hrs to my parents house. I started feeling like shit 45min in, worst I've ever felt in my life, thought I had malaria. Called hospitals to see if I could get tested and they asked why I might have malaria..."I just got back from West Africa" was NOT the right thing to say and none said they could test me. 3hrs into the trip I stopped in Charlotte and went to an ER. I said the same above and got taken into a room, had blood drawn and told it'd be a while. They came back an hour later saying the CDC cleared my blood sample after looking at it over...ebola had just started to blow up while I was over there and I didn't even think of it

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Eaton_Rifles t1_itvmro9 wrote

Ebola and Covid decide to merge, now that would be a World problem...👍

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katsukare t1_ituxp4d wrote

Not surprising given their lackluster testing for covid.

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dat_GEM_lyf t1_itwhqty wrote

Tell me you know nothing about bio safety levels without telling me you know nothing

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katsukare t1_itxi8bn wrote

Care to share your insight with us?

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dat_GEM_lyf t1_ity7a2f wrote

Bio Safety Levels involve a set of criteria that can be used to assess the safety needed to work with biological agents. BSL4 is the highest level and requires not only a very specific type of facility but also requires a good deal of money for upkeep. There are few BSL4 labs in the world and Ebola is a BSL4 pathogen. So most labs can’t work with it.

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