Palestine was never a nation. Jews and Arabs both lived in the Ottoman Empire region known as Palestine. There is no occupation against the pre 1967 borders.

What’s worse about this protracted claim is that it ignores that the WB was Jordan, Gaza was Egypt and hundreds of thousands of Jews were evicted, raped, murdered and stolen from in many Arab nations with no continued discussion of return. The same happened to Greeks, Turks and other peoples.

The world has moved on save the WB and Gaza Arabs. Egypt even joins Israel in the blockade agains Hamas. Fellow Sunnis. And Israel has repeatedly offered land for peace.

Instead the PLO, PA, MB, Hamas and Fatah (of a few political and/or terror groups) continues to push for genocide or eviction where the world moved on. The people have suffered while Abbas and Hamas pour money into Swiss accounts and Gaza is used as a human shield in poverty.

As to the current borders - Gaza saw all Israelis unilaterally leave in 2005. It could have been a new nation. For the WB, Arafat rejected peace as the loser of the 1967 war, yet he was given virtually everything desired except EJ. And now? Israel is stuck - the settlements are wrong, but Israel can’t unilaterally leave as Iran, Syria and Russia would likely create an internal conflict of Sunni vs Shia. Whatever remained would be hostile to Israel and a blockade would be impossible. Jordan doesn’t want the WB back.

Israel sees more animus from the UN and others in blatant bigotry. While far from perfect, it is the only nation that tries to protect enemy lives, warning before targeted strikes on Hamas, for example. Other combatants would carpet bomb and the world would move on in a few years; Israel has worked for peace for decades even after four multinational wars.

It is obtuse to claim Israel is occupier. It isn’t historically accurate and it ignores that Jews and Israel were there first. Selecting a preferential arbitrary point in time is disingenuous.

I'd say it's the Arab occupation of Israel

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