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pegothejerk t1_istd634 wrote

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And yet we tie healthcare and wages necessary for minimal survival on systems built to fail large numbers of people. Today corporations play musical characters chairs with jobs so they don't have to pay for healthcare or provide living wages, and yet people will still vote and preach against healthcare for all, which would remove the for profit middlemen and reduce the cost of healthcare. Oh industries of people would suddenly struggle and would have to find new jobs if we restructured healthcare? That's already happening everywhere, let's fix it now before no one but the top 1% can afford even basic services.

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CreativeMischief t1_ister7g wrote

> And yet we tie healthcare and wages necessary for minimal survival on systems built to fail large numbers of people.

Which is what the gutted version of the ACA provided us, a bandaid fix with barely any glue. It's so sad how far to the right the US has gone. Obamacare, wasn't a new idea, Nixon talked about the same ideas in regards to healthcare. https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/special-message-the-congress-proposing-national-health-strategy

It's so insane how far back in time reactionaries have brought us and they will take us further.

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pegothejerk t1_istki9b wrote

Crimes aside, Nixon would be considered liberal compared to today's centrist and moderate dems

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CreativeMischief t1_istlfmw wrote

100%. Look at the UK as well, Boris Johnson, right wing enough to be compared to Donald Trump still ran on expanding healthcare for its citizens. He would be called a socialist by Fox News in America.

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The_Yarichin_Bitch t1_isu4j44 wrote

I always love hearing "I'm a centrist!" because 9/10, they're just waiting for the dem candidate to say one thing they sorta dislike and they immediately start shouting slurs and right-wing propaganda... it's tiring.

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pegothejerk t1_istqaqq wrote

I more referring to things like his admin adopting the Clean Air Act, forming the Environment Protection Agency, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, and proposing more regulation during any presidency since the New Deal. Zero republicans would do those things now, and that sits him squarely as one of the most liberal presidents in modern times, though yes, he certainly was a solid conservative in many other manners, especially race and class relations. And sheer number of crimes.

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Northern-Canadian t1_isvbudb wrote

Note that obama care only was able to exist after the republicans kneecapped it thoroughly.

It would truly be an amazing thing for the USA had it not been gutted.

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CreativeMischief t1_iswcfzf wrote

Yeah I agree, but it was still a step in the right direction I think. A lot of companies got around it by only hiring part time employees as well. That wasn’t the reason it was gutted though, the plan was seen as radical and too progressive and that was my point. Even neoliberal polices in this country are slandered by the right as socialist

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DistributedDemocracy t1_istoypj wrote

I think this is failure of media regulations to protect US citizens from brainwashing because you can't come up with rational management when one side is being constantly radicalized to live in their on fantasy bubble. It's far more dangerous than most ppl realize.

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The_Yarichin_Bitch t1_isu4o23 wrote

certainly doesn't help for the types of people more inclined to want the easiest explaination/that double down on things rather than admit fault.

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Lordprotector2005 t1_isvfk8b wrote

We can simply get around this whole middling with the law and just nationalize health care. I mean that sounds like a good idea

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