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goodDayM t1_it6wjs0 wrote

Reply to comment by diamened in Exclusive: Officer being investigated over Uvalde response gave order to delay classroom breach by 5xad0w

Yep and the Nytimes agrees with you:

> The school police chief was singled out for blame, but a Times visual investigation found that scores of trained officers, including those from an elite Border Patrol unit, took many of the same steps. > > … Visual evidence from the scene, while limited, indicates the problem was not simply one incompetent school police chief, or officers who knew better, but failed to take action. The available footage shows high-ranking officers, experienced state troopers, police academy instructors — even federal SWAT specialists — came to the same conclusions and were detoured by the same delays the school police chief has been condemned for causing.

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oh_really_man t1_it7km96 wrote

Elite Border Patrol unit heh?

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TroubleshootenSOB t1_it7zjls wrote

Yeah what the fuck is that?

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ArrrGaming t1_itarmun wrote

Same type of paramilitary unit that Trump sent to Portland in 2020. Remember? The rented minivans, and snatching US citizens off the street? That was them - maybe not personally, but the same organization. I'm glad they finally engaged the murderer in Uvalde, but I remain very disappointed in my Federal government, something I never used to be and hope to feel better about someday. :(

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Sirlancemehlot t1_it9jc38 wrote

Visual evidence. In other words: we saw lots of people not shooting at the suspect. What a load of shit. It was absolutely the fault of the Police Chief. He's supposed to have all the intel and has the rank to deploy as he sees fit. If he tells the police/border patrol/ SWAT/ that they shouldn't engage...they assume there's a reason. That's how rank works. In the end, it was a border patrol agent who had enough of being held back and stormed the school, getting shot in the head for his troubles...against the chief's orders. https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2022/05/26/images-show-injury-of-border-patrol-agent-who-exchanged-gunfire-with-uvalde-school-shooter/

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goodDayM t1_it9sfmb wrote

From the article I recommend you read:

> ... Footage shows BORTAC, the Border Patrol’s elite tactical agents, took charge about halfway into the response, and learned right away that children were trapped inside with the gunman. But it took 37 minutes of planning, testing keys and readying equipment before BORTAC breached the classrooms.j > > ... Multiple media outlets and a Texas House investigative committee have cast blame beyond Mr. Arredondo. In September, D.P.S. itself acknowledged revising its protocol for active shooter incidents and said seven employees were under review by the inspector general.

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Sirlancemehlot t1_itdscwr wrote

It took 37 minutes from plan to prep to execution. That's not a lot of time at all considering it was no longer an "active shooter" but a "barricaded suspect" situation. A barricaded suspect can use hostages as shields, or bargaining chips by threatening to kill a number of them. Breaching a barricaded suspect is not the same as going in and taking down a gunman strolling the halls. Fact is, that's what they should have done long before the suspect barricaded himself with hostages. And its what Arredondo refused to order.

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