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[deleted] t1_ita7q15 wrote

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ZeroAfro t1_ita9h5u wrote

I mean there is lots of examples of this so I'd say it is a mature opinion. You may not be mature but doesn't mean others aren't.

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bbills91 t1_itaehag wrote

Are you trying to tell me that the GOP actually encourages education? Show me one example where they have embraced education instead of cutting funding from it? The schools my kids went to were awful compared to the ones my wife and I attended. I grew up in a blue state and live in a red one so I see the difference. My wife was a teacher years ago so I am very in tune with who does or doesn’t support education.

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thecalamitythesis t1_itbrn5u wrote

I don’t need to see the world in terms of binary tribes. Both parties are terrible. Sure, the GOP is god awful on education (as well as everything else) but even if you assume this is 100% true across the board then I still think the Dem party is equally as responsible for not articulating a competitive vision that has won more support - which should not be that hard given most people care a lot about their kids education. Blue state education outcomes are better compared to red, but blue state outcomes are still shit compared to the rest of the developed world.

I think it’s immature to frame these issues as “one party bad one party good”. Both parties suck and share equal responsibility for our problems.

Almost every teacher is a democrat if you look at global statistics in the united states and the teacher’s unions are 100% establishment democratic party supporters. Even if you make the argument republicans have ranked education on a federal level or through textbook monopolies out of Texas then don’t the dems suck by getting so easily steamrolled given they literally control the entire education system at the teacher level up through the federal bureaucracy ? have these democratic teachers unions stood in the way of meaningful reform to protect their teachers over the educational needs of the country ? It’s easy to say these republicans are stupid and mean and just want to destroy education. Nobody thinks they are the villain, including the republicans. That’s why this is not a mature opinion because you are treading a political party and it’s members like this is star wars and they are the sith. All the major cities in the US have been controlled by dems for decades. How are their inner city schools doing ?

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M4TT145 t1_itc6v8e wrote

Man, the amount of statistics you just pulled straight from your gooch….not to mention the hypocrisy.

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thecalamitythesis t1_itd4css wrote

the amount of statistics i “pulled out of my gooch” being claiming the following:

-The teacher’s unions are 100% aligned with the dems (show me the lie here)

-Almost all teachers lean liberal and if they support a political party it is the democrats (show me the lie here)

-blue state education outcomes are better than red state education outcomes (show me the lie here)

-the US has poor education outcomes compared to the rest of the developed world (show me the lie here)

-all major cities have been controlled by the dems for decades and their inner city schools are terrible (show me the lie here)

where is my hypocrisy? the thesis of my response os that both parties are equally culpable and it’s immature to attribute ANY of our political problems to a single party because that’s not how the world works or has ever worked.

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