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Actual-Obligation728 t1_it8lduj wrote

The free world shouldn't negotiate with a NaZi terrorist state until a new ruZZian government, demilitarization and reparations are agreed and all the Ruzzian terrorists leave Ukraine.

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KerPop42 t1_it8pb7i wrote

Lol, last point at the end, apparently Putin called the US colonialist for sending arms to Ukraine, in the same announcement where he declared the annexation of Ukraine's territory

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rogerdanafox t1_it8v4yz wrote

US DOESN'T have defense ministry No C. In defense

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_MrBalls_ t1_it9ldqc wrote

I wonder how that call went...

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HugheyM t1_it9vpbt wrote

A shame Austin has to waste time talking to amateurs like Shoigu.

I’d like to think the conversation was “get rid of Putler, then we’ll talk.”

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Maktaka t1_ita4u24 wrote

Even Navalny refuses to consider returning Crimea to Ukraine, on the justification that it's not "a ham sandwich or something that you can take and give back". The longer russian troops occupy Ukrainian territory, the more open he'll be to applying that logic to Donbas et al. The people thought of as the "good" russians to take charge are still fascists bent on taking over Ukraine, they're just willing to do it slower.

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NessyComeHome t1_itabfeu wrote

Yep. He also shares the current government stance of "Russia should have a say in the domestic affairs of former soviet states".

His anti war in Ukraine stance is less supporting Ukranian sovereignty, and more of an anti putin stance.

He is also anti corruption... which, dont get me wrong, would be great for the country and it's citizens... but imagine if all the money meant for the military was never stolen... everything maintained, better equipment.. hell even just having basic uniforms that they currently lack.

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grumpy_hedgehog t1_itb10y1 wrote

“Bruh, you really gonna nuke us?”

“Nah fam, you gonna nuke us?”

“Wasn’t actually planning on it.”

“Ok, cool”

“Cool”

secret handshake

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MichaelVonBiskhoff t1_itb2w30 wrote

Navalnyy is a pro-West Russian imperialist, if that makes sense. He fully supported the 2008 intervention in Georgia, called the Georgians rodents and was dissapointed that the Russians didn't commit to invading the entirety of Georgia

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gizmozed t1_itbohup wrote

Talking to Putin or his proxies is a $%@# waste of time, like discussing nuclear fission with a toddler.

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Bitter_Director1231 t1_itbza0a wrote

There is almost always back channels in which diplomats speak even though in the media they are odds with each other.

It's when the back channels go radio silent, then I would start worrying.

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Warr_Dogg t1_itcqi7b wrote

I’m curious how an actual defence minister can have a conversation with Shoigu without it being like talking to a kindergarten child?

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