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[deleted] t1_ixndltw wrote

Reply to comment by Leading-Two5757 in A paramedic fought to save a crash victim, not knowing it was her daughter by ComfortableFactor1

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elcd t1_ixnw09d wrote

Autistic checking in, it's not an excuse to be a fucking scumbag. If you constantly make inappropriate comments/gestures, YOU should learn to reign that in, not expect people to simply accomodate your fuckery without any attempt to improve your social ability.

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mikeybagodonuts t1_ixnz0fe wrote

If you believe that the only way to teach someone morality is to immediately call them a shitty human being then you have a problem then. So here’s your “your a piece of trash and the world sucks because of people like you” check. Berating someone into submission doesn’t help that person. At all.

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elcd t1_ixo27s5 wrote

Hooo boy, I hope the irony and hypocrisy of... well all of this is not lost on you.

You seem to have missed my point in an attempt to play the victim, which is in line with the post I replied to, which tried to deflect responsibility. I'm NOT OP, I didn't berate anyone in to submission, I didn't call anyone a shitty human being.

I stated, in no uncertain terms, that being autistic is not a valid excuse for refusal to work with and around your own challenges. Expecting carte blanche accomodation for your shortcomings is not acceptable in the world at large.

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mikeybagodonuts t1_ixo2zx3 wrote

Oh I I didn’t miss the point at all. You made yourself quite clear. I’m not deflecting responsibility. I’m giving a possible reason. And you come back with the fact that I am autistic as well and your opinion is wrong how we supposed to teach people anything by just calling him a scumbag why not instead just go hey that’s totally inappropriate and if you’d like to have a discussion about it I will tell you why.

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elcd t1_ixo47ma wrote

You did, because it seems your reading comprehension is off sunshine.

I never called anyone a shitty human being. I never called anyone personally a scumbag. I said autism is not an excuse for being a scumbag.

In fact, the only person who called someone anything derogatory in our discourse is you with your little adhominem attack on me.

The original post was deleted before I responded to you.

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mikeybagodonuts t1_ixo73ps wrote

I never made an excuse for the comment but gave a potential reason for it. You’re the one drawing the conclusion that I was making an excuse. I never excused the behaviour but offered a reason and here you are disputing the potential cause. You seem to agree that the response to ops original and now deleted comment was wholly appropriate. If that’s the way you like to be corrected about your social misgivings more power to you.

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JibletHunter t1_ixocu87 wrote

Just take the L and pack it in. You are being pedantic to avoid confronting the valid point of elcd.

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elcd t1_ixoemhl wrote

Thanks for backing me up mate.

It seems the "I'm autistic so I can be inappropriate without consequence" narrative is much easier to follow that taking responsibility and not being a shitty person.

It's not easy, it wasn't for me, but it's doable. Empathy is learnable, social skills are skills that can be honed (even if sometimes it's camoflaging) and being a good person is possible even when you're abilities are impeded.

I see people romanticising mental illness and pandering to everyone who's a little bit different now; looks like taking responsbility for your shit is just in the too hard basket for people these days.

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mikeybagodonuts t1_ixofudl wrote

Ohhhhh. So there it is. I did it so everyone else with the same or more extreme impediments should be able to. And if they can’t learn or are not properly taught they’re bad people. Once again you are framing my initial reply to the comment as an excuse for bad behaviour. Totally devoid of empathy for the way the op was spoken to. You might wanna do a little more work on your empathy.

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