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EntertainerNo3007 t1_ixk58v0 wrote

Man imagine if the US had this ability and didn’t function like a 3rd world country

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Lutoures t1_ixlkqid wrote

Brazilian here. Maybe the US should instead stop seen "First" and "Third World" countries and start been humble enough to learn from institutional advancements beyond the countries of the Atlantic North.

Brazil has this separate electoral justice system ruling the elections since the 1930s. Until now it was basically a measure to prevent fraud on the local level and unify the electoral system across the federation.

Now it was probably the first time that it was tested as an independent power against an overreaching Executive. The fact that they successfully taunted Bolsonaro's coup aspirations is a testimony to the genius of this institution, that should be set more as an example even coming from a "third world country".

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boris_keys t1_ixn6mse wrote

Technically “first” and “third” world is an antiquated Cold War classification. “Developing” and “developed” nations is used more today.

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Lutoures t1_ixn9qtg wrote

Yes, well-remembered. Although I still dislike also this classification, as it implies that the model of development in the richer nations of Europe and North America is the model for all humanity, and the other countries are only "late" at achieving them. This is problematic for two reasons:

  1. Much of the characteristics seen as "underdevelopments" were actually set in the international system for the benefit of the richer countries.
  2. There may be more than one vision of what "development means" beyond the general well-being of people. Different countries, different cultures, different needs to be satisfied.

I still think the best option is stop using those dualistic definitions and embrace categories that recognize better the history, culture and diversity of different groups of nations.

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MurderousMaraca t1_ixmjsew wrote

Well said. Look at individual achievements and stop using outdated general classifications. All countries can and should learn from each other.

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spzcb10 t1_ixot3jg wrote

My opinion is that Brazil is not third world so….

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childishforces t1_ixtqy79 wrote

That’s not what he was suggesting. He suggested the US is operating like one.

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spzcb10 t1_iy4f1os wrote

Certainly is and will continue to.

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unresolved_m t1_ixkq6uq wrote

I have a feeling that someone in Brazil learned a lot from Jan. 6 events

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jjolla888 t1_ixl2p2s wrote

these laws were in place well before then.

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unresolved_m t1_ixm2r1s wrote

Interesting. I thought Bolsonaro would change laws to benefit himself, much like djt did.

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Mesk_Arak t1_ixm6vq3 wrote

Of course he would want to change laws to benefit himself. But that’s exactly why we have a separation of powers in Brazil: to stop a wannabe dictator like Bolsonaro from using the law to his advantage.

Bolsonaro would love to be a dictator, but fortunately he’s not able to due to how the system is implemented.

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Full-Watercress-7743 t1_ixm1cjp wrote

I don't get whats the big deal behind jan. 6. I bet biden doesn't remember anything at all lmao

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PointlessGiant t1_ixm2fi9 wrote

You guys really just have the one "joke," don't you?

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Full-Watercress-7743 t1_ixm3i9u wrote

Who said I was joking? Maybe if he asked any of the White House ghosts they could jog his memory.

And of course, a nice handshake afterwards.

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PointlessGiant t1_ixmk0tu wrote

Lol good one, it's totally not at all hack and is still funny even after the first 1,000,000 times jabronis just like you dropped it.

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unresolved_m t1_ixm27y6 wrote

Do you think he remembers Bowling Green Massacre? He was a part of it, after all.

Much bigger deal than Jan 6. I know people who lost their relatives in BGM.

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itsthebeans t1_ixmt3oe wrote

The big deal is that Republicans attempted to overthrow a democratic election and incited a riot at the US Capitol building.

Even if Biden was in a coma, it wouldn't change that Republicans staged a coup (a poorly executed one nonetheless).

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Full-Watercress-7743 t1_ixmuyfc wrote

As a foreigner, it honestly didn't seem organized to me, but something organic because of the revolt with the election result.

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itsthebeans t1_ixnsz3j wrote

There was an organized attempt to overthrow the election by changing the results in several states to have Trump declared President.

The riot itself may or may not have been organized from the top, but there were certainty militia groups that went there with the goal of insurrection. And the riot was caused by the rhetoric of Trump and other Republicans.

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