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Freexscsa t1_ixnvlac wrote

That's not in the holiday spirit.

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Dangerous--D t1_ixnxjg6 wrote

> Voria Ghafouri, a former member of the national football team and once a captain of the Tehran club Esteghlal, has been outspoken in his defence of Iranian Kurds, telling the government on social media to stop killing Kurdish people. He has previously been detained for criticising the former Iranian foreign minister Javad Zarif.

> He recently tweeted: “Stop killing Kurdish people!!! Kurds are Iran itself … Killing Kurds is equal to killing Iran. If you are indifferent to the killing of people, you are not an Iranian and you are not even a human being … All tribes are from Iran. Do not kill people!!!”

I don't know jack shit about the situation with Iranian Kurds, but if it's anything like what it sounds, much respect to this man. I just wish that even a dozen players at this World Cup would have 1/10 of the balls that this guy has when it comes to disrespecting oppressive authoritarian regimes.

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Traditional_Wear1992 t1_ixnz444 wrote

Replying to Dangerous--D (#656,615)

Got to have these people with platforms stand up so people might learn. Sadly in the US this guy would probably have been hated and lost any shot at play soccer again for doing this, just look at how Kaepernick got treated for what I would say is being even more respectful by just kneeling during the anthem:/

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Dangerous--D t1_ixnzemy wrote

Replying to Traditional_Wear1992 (#656,759)

>Sadly in the US this guy would probably have been hated and lost any shot at play soccer again for doing this

Not a chance. Soccer fandom isn't like football fandom here, how did Seattle and Portland fans react when they were told to stop with the iron front stuff? You see rainbow stuff all over various MLS subcultures, and a wide support base for just about all human rights causes.

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Hizjyayvu t1_ixo1dsg wrote

Put some respect on this man's name. My goodness there's some brave Iranians.

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who-dee-knee1 t1_ixo7sgt wrote

Replying to Dangerous--D (#656,615)

Kurdistan is a nation left out of the map when Great Britain and France redrew the boundaries of the Middle East after WWI. It comprises parts of Iraq, Iran, Turkey, and Syria. In many regions, the Kurds very much have their own governing body, and they have since been trying to become a completely independent nation. Obviously authoritarian regimes like Iran and Saddam’s Iraqi government don’t like that, as they don’t want to give up any of their countries boundaries. Ghafouri doesn’t seem to be supporting Kurdish independence, just doesn’t want people being killed. Of course, Iran piece of shit officials are going to twist it as “spreading propaganda against the state,” which clearly it isn’t. Hoping for the safety and well-being of Ghafouri. 🙏

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Enshakushanna t1_ixo9l1g wrote

yup, everyone saw this from a mile away

jack ma thought he was safe too

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2020IsANightmare t1_ixoig6e wrote

Real football or the foot kick flop game normal people call soccer?

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tang4685 t1_ixomtl1 wrote

What a courageous man.

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coolmint859 t1_ixosdka wrote

This is what it looks like when you don't have the right to free speech.

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UptownShenanigans t1_ixoyg62 wrote

>“Some people, who benefit from the country’s peace and security, enjoying their jobs and their favourite sports, bite the hand that feeds them”

It must be absolutely terrifying to live in a place where you’re only ever allowed to be thankful to “the hand that feeds you” when it’s also strangling to death women and minorities

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aLiNaZeR_official t1_ixp0nvo wrote

Replying to Dangerous--D (#661,351)

About 50 years ago, kurds invaded some states of iran's west(khoozestan and kermanshah) and killed about 100,000 of native people, then escaped to iraq. They dont want to be free. Just want some space enough to build a country and stop iran's development.

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Arcadess t1_ixpmmz5 wrote

Replying to DaoFerret (#661,744)

>Also worth mentioning that the Kurds in Afghanistan

I know what you meant, but those Kurds live in Syria.
Kurdistan is a region at the borders of Iraq, Iran, Syria and Turkey.

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KilgoreTroutPfc t1_ixpmvgf wrote

I wonder how many people who find this to be an outrage are the same people that also say about America, “I’m all for free speech and everything, but maybe we should ban speech that I don’t agree with or find offensive. I mean, people could get hurt ya know!”

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Clint101b t1_ixps6c6 wrote

fFs can someone get rid of the Iranian shitheads in power once and for all

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Krillin113 t1_ixpw7fm wrote

Replying to censored_username (#660,759)

Countries in general don’t want to give up territories because it opens up an insane can of worms. Also if Kurdistan were to United, there’d be insane civil war; Iraqi, Iranian, Turkish and Syrian Kurds vary significantly

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Bitter_Director1231 t1_ixq5do1 wrote

This man should be applauded for his defiance. Iran needs a revolution and overthrow of their government. Period. They will never survive at this rate if they don't.

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souquemsabes t1_ixqfc5l wrote

Replying to maybeex (#665,608)

Perhaps.

However, history tells us that:

Turkish-Kurdish conflict or Kurdish rebellions in Turkey refer to the nationalist struggles of Kurds in Turkey, beginning after the Turkish War of Independence and the consequent transition from the Ottoman Empire to the modern Turkish state.
According to Turkish military records, Kurdish rebellions have been taking place in Anatolia for over two centuries.

Although Kurdish tribal uprisings ended the Ottoman Empire over the last few decades of its existence, the conflict in its modern phase is considered to have started in 1922, with the rise of Kurdish nationalism paralleling the formation of the modern state. from Turkey.

In 1925, an uprising for an independent Kurdistan, led by Sheikh Said Piran, was quickly suppressed, and Said and his followers were executed soon after. Several other large-scale Kurdish revolts took place in Ararat and Dersim in 1930 and 1937.The British consul in Trebizond, Dersim's closest diplomatic post, spoke of the brutal and indiscriminate violence and pointed to an explicit comparison with the Armenian massacres of 1915. "Thousands of Kurds," he wrote, "including women and children, were killed, others, mostly children, were thrown into the Euphrates, while thousands of others in less hostile areas, who had first been deprived of their livestock and other belongings, were deported to vilayets (provinces) in Central Anatolia. Kurdish question no longer exists in Turkey".
Kurds accuse successive Turkish governments of suppressing their identity through means such as banning the Kurdish language in print and media.

Atatürk believed that the unity and stability of a country lay in a unitary political identity, relegating cultural and ethnic distinctions to the private sphere. However, many Kurds have not renounced their identities and language.

Full-scale armed conflict between the Turkish armed forces and the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) would occur throughout the 1980s and 1990s, leaving over 35,000 dead. Recent actions by the Turkish government have provided Kurds with limited rights and freedoms, particularly with regard to the Kurdish language, education and media. Kurdish politicians and activists still face pressure. (source: wikipedia).

Best regards.

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maybeex t1_ixr4p06 wrote

Replying to souquemsabes (#666,894)

My comment is that, Erdogan is not and was never a Kurd hater, he is an Islamist and sees kurds as their muslim brothers and allies to create an Islamic Emirate in Turkey.

He also loves Sexh Said and mentions it in their election propaganda also the grandson of Said is a parliamentarian in Erdogans party.

There are many kurds outside of pkk and they are not all the same. Most of them are supporting Erdogan and his fundamentalist ideology. Pkk leader Ocalan even asked for his supporters to vote for Erdogan. Peshmerge and Erdogan are doing business openly selling Kurdish oil to other countries. Only way for Kurds to have a solution on self determination lies in democratic Turkey and it looks that wont happen soon.

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