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chesterpower t1_iyefpf1 wrote

In the first paragraph of your article from 3 years ago:

“it appears that two of Elon Musk’s companies, SpaceX and Tesla, are perceived by engineering students as the best employers in the country.”

It says nothing about actual current or former employees and one article from 3 years ago would hardly be a consistent track record anyway.

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sandsurfngbomber t1_iyex0bq wrote

Know a lot of engineering grads from a top US aerospace college - this is valid. Even with all the wildness around Musk and his companies, they would still accept an offer from Tesla/SpaceX in a heartbeat. The simple reason is that these are very competitive places to get hired and work. Everyone knows it's long hours, burnouts, ridiculous management etc. But everyone wants to go there because after 1-2 years the exit opportunities lead to very good positions at other top firms.

It's the same as finance people wanting to work at banks that are known to be sweatshops. Investment banks, private equity will work you 80+ hours/week. But they still have tens of thousands of applicants per position because everyone knows if you can survive it your life is set.

The only thing that changes here if having these names on a resume can hurt your future chances. Then competitive students/entry-level applicants will steer clear. Till then, these companies will not have a shortage of top grads lining up for interviews.

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chesterpower t1_iyezp33 wrote

This is the comment I responded to:

> His established companies are consistently ranked the top two places to work. At least for engineers.

I don’t doubt that students would perceive two of the most well known companies in their fields to be top employment opportunities. I don’t doubt that those jobs lead to better future employment opportunities either.

I do doubt that they are consistently ranked as the top places to work at by current or past employees, and the source provided gives no evidence to back up that claim.

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Xaxxon t1_iyegoyz wrote

There are plenty more sources, that's just the first I found.

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chesterpower t1_iyel7ip wrote

How do you know any of these sources actually back up what you’re trying to say? You clearly didn’t read, or misunderstood this one.

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lasvegasnv11 t1_iyesv0o wrote

You're on a device with internet, you should show us one. Or a subreddit where his employees speak on how great theyre treated

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Xaxxon t1_iyexrz5 wrote

Employees speak on how they are treated by continuing to work there and succeed.

People that work at spacex and Tesla would not be hard pressed to find other jobs.

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chesterpower t1_iyf3xa0 wrote

So they are the top places to work because employees continue to work there? That would probably mean they have the highest employee retention.

Doing a quick search of top employee retention rates by company, I don’t see either company even mentioned, let alone at the top. In fact, the only place I saw either mentioned is in this article. If you scroll to the last chart on the page and filter by automotive industry, you will see that Tesla is not near the top, but actually at the very bottom of the list.

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