Twitter tells High Court it has restored Dublin-based senior executive to her position
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BadMedAdvice t1_iyd0msp wrote
Accept the paycheck while spending her whole day lining up a better job. No rush.
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charlotte-ent t1_iyd1fn4 wrote
Hell, go work at the better job and double dip. It's not like Twitter has enough HR or managerial staff to pay attention. Just straight up steal from Elon. I would.
agent_flounder t1_iyd1pwk wrote
>She claimed that by not responding to a generic and vague e-mail sent to all of Twitter employees by its owner multi–Billionaire Elon Musk earlier this month, she was treated as if she was no longer employed by the company.
>She said that she never resigned from her job but had been locked out of Twitter’s IT system and was unable to access the firm’s Dublin office.
Lmao what an absolute clown show. Like even the best workplace comedies can't even touch the depths of absurdity that Melon Husk so effortlessly drags the company to. My god, he is a genius ...of staggering, unfathomable incompetence lol
azurleaf t1_iyd2r2u wrote
Elon is going up againts people who actually know how to do their jobs. An executive at her level knows exactly the process needed to fire someone in her country, and probably laughed at such a non-compliant 'CC-All, Pls respond to keep ur job' email from an American.
Reptardar t1_iyd3zvk wrote
She’s a sr executive. That’s what she was doing to begin with.
ThatGuy98_ OP t1_iyd4cai wrote
See my reply to the person you replied to about her career thus far.
ThatGuy98_ OP t1_iyd4dd3 wrote
Comment from previous thread
Just some further info for my (assumedly mostly American) friends.
Before working as VP for public policy at Twitter, she
- Graduated as a Barrister
- Worked for the Attorney General and the Department of Justice
- Head of communications and media for Northern Ireland Police (PSNI)
- Chief communications officer for the Gardai (our police force in Ireland)
Furthermore, she's also well respected by many in her area, both in Ireland and the EU.
Our legal system isn't perfect, but employment law is one area they don't fuck about with. Choosing to pick a fight with her, given the above info, and the fact that she is the de facto head of twitter EU, given its role with the EU over things like GPDR, DMA and DSA, he's picked one hell of a first fight.
dybyj t1_iyd5z5t wrote
Don’t do that. Other companies will think you will do that too them too
tryingtodefendhim t1_iyd7id3 wrote
Googled his nationality: American / South African / Canadian
officerfett t1_iyd7m10 wrote
I don't know which is sadder. The daily further demonstration of the 4D Genius Dunce level mgmt and leadership skills this guy has in abundance, or his cadre of his simps that will perform the mental acrobatics that justify to them every stupid decision this he makes.
SeaBag7480 t1_iyd7v19 wrote
Damn right I will
jschubart t1_iyd8w0x wrote
Elon quintouple dips. Why shouldn't his employees?
Japboix1 t1_iyd9720 wrote
He obtained citizenship through his mother and only lived here for two years (according to Wikipedia). There are literally thousands of people on Permanent Residencies more Canadian than him.
dybyj t1_iyd9rrr wrote
If you double dip, companies will think you are time stealing and fire you with cause. This will affect your ability to get future jobs, including desirable ones….
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EffOffReddit t1_iydch1y wrote
He lied about his degree to stay in the US, should have his naturalization revoked since he got it on false pretenses. I'd love to see him deported.
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SysAdminDennyBob t1_iydffmz wrote
Is there some secret database where this HR information is stored and shared across all companies? What if I just left that off my resume? Yea, I think that would suffice.
dybyj t1_iydh009 wrote
If you get fired for it, the new company will likely call your last employer… I suppose if you leave your last employer off, maybe you could get away with it. But why bother?
RSomnambulist t1_iydhpsc wrote
Background checks can show this, and there is some new thing from equifax or experian that I looked at that tracks your work history. You can turn it off though.
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not_productive1 t1_iydjxdg wrote
Yeah, fucking around with European labor laws isn't going to end well for Elon.
Manny-Both-Hanz t1_iydkebg wrote
r/overemployed
jeekiii t1_iydlm6a wrote
Uuh double dipping is fraud though...
Traksimuss t1_iydmzkx wrote
He drank Tim Hortons once and watched hockey game, so that makes him Canadian.
DPVaughan t1_iydq2rg wrote
Yeah, he seems to be confusing it for the US where that sort of shit flies.
ibeenbornagain t1_iydqn3n wrote
So basically don’t get caught
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Skim003 t1_iydx98k wrote
Michael Scott: Pam what you don't understand is at my level, you don't just look in the want ads for a job, you are headhunted!
Jim Halpert: Have you called any headhunters?
Michael Scott: Any good headhunter knows that I am available.
Medium-Complaint-677 t1_iydxgzc wrote
Then I guess Elon can't be CEO of 4 companies at once.
dungone t1_iydxxci wrote
It's not stealing. That's why I downvoted you. Otherwise I agree. The only party that broke the law here was the employer.
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niceoutside2022 t1_iye2oz1 wrote
You know, it's entirely possible that Elon knew little about her and didn't intentionally pick this specific fight, it was just that the whole situation was such a shit show and her name got added to a list.
Krewtan t1_iye3y9o wrote
I can't wait for the Netflix live action remake. I'll even reactivate my account briefly
2SP00KY4ME t1_iye49tf wrote
Guarantee you all the thought that went into it was he pulled up the names of all the different teams, spent five seconds thinking about each based on their name alone, and scratched off the ones that sounded unecessary to him. He knows he's a genius master business strategist, after all.
dak4f2 t1_iye6e1u wrote
Yes it's run by Equifax and is called The Work Number. https://www.fool.com/the-ascent/personal-finance/articles/if-youre-working-2-jobs-beware-equifax-may-tell-your-boss/
Wafkak t1_iyeb2j6 wrote
I would walk up to it every morning g take a selfie with the newspaper and leave again. Then sue to get the wage for that period.
Xaxxon t1_iyec052 wrote
His established companies are consistently ranked the top two places to work. At least for engineers.
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-spacex-best-employers-2019-elon-musk/amp/
Edit perhaps “two of the top” would be more accurate but regardless the point still stands that they are considered great places to work.
RandomRobot t1_iyec4y4 wrote
It really depends on the contract she signed. Most midrange to high level contracts include this, but "VP of Global[something]" may be above that.
Regardless, you can't take another 7 figures job in secret. Stuff gets known fast
RandomRobot t1_iyecj1o wrote
Elon is free to negotiate his contracts however he wants, such as "no single employment clauses".
Medium-Complaint-677 t1_iyecrcr wrote
I've worked for a lot of software companies and I've signed a lot of contracts. Nothing I've ever looked at has a "single employment" clause and I don't know how that would ever be enforcible anyway.
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SysAdminDennyBob t1_iyeettj wrote
Coupled with their incompetence with regards to data security, that's probably easy data to get. I stand corrected.
rockmasterflex t1_iyef40k wrote
Do you… do you think payroll information is private? My man it’s reported to the irs.
jorgesoos t1_iyef9wr wrote
Your link talks about how Tesla and SpaceX are the most attractive employers for engineering students, not that they're ranked the top two places to work. This isn't because of Elon, but because of what these companies do.
From the same year as your article, Tesla employee satisfaction ratings slip amid cost-cutting, layoffs :
> At jobs site Glassdoor, Tesla's overall company rating fell to 3.2 out of 5.0 stars based on reviews written in the first quarter from a high of 3.6 in 2017, according to historical data compiled by Glassdoor at Reuters' request. The average rating of the nearly 1 million employers reviewed on the site is 3.4.
> In the first quarter, Elon Musk's CEO approval rating dropped to 52% from 90% in 2017.
> Tesla's "recommend to a friend" rating fell to 49% in the first quarter from a high of 71% two years prior, the Glassdoor data showed.
> For comparison, Ford Motor Co. rates 3.9 stars, with Jim Hackett earning a 72 percent CEO rating, and 76 percent would recommend the company to a friend. General Motors rated 3.4 stars, with 67 percent approval of CEO Mary Barra and a 59 percent recommend rating. Toyota North America earned a 3.7 rating, 91 percent approve of CEO Akio Toyoda, and 69 percent would recommend to a friend.
Elon's going to face much tougher challenges expecting the same work-life imbalance from employees working for a social media site as opposed to a company that revolutionized the EV industry and a company that is essentially competing with NASA.
Edit for your edit:. Neither Tesla nor SpaceX even ranks at all in the 2022 Fortune 100 top companies to work for.
chesterpower t1_iyefpf1 wrote
In the first paragraph of your article from 3 years ago:
“it appears that two of Elon Musk’s companies, SpaceX and Tesla, are perceived by engineering students as the best employers in the country.”
It says nothing about actual current or former employees and one article from 3 years ago would hardly be a consistent track record anyway.
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SysAdminDennyBob t1_iyeg8xu wrote
ring ring. IRS speaking, what can I do for you? Yea, can I get Donald Trump's employment history and tax return? Uh, let me check....no
Xaxxon t1_iyegg5j wrote
> This isn't because of Elon, but because of what these companies do. > >
You don't get to separate those two things.
Xaxxon t1_iyegoyz wrote
There are plenty more sources, that's just the first I found.
jorgesoos t1_iyeh1ed wrote
Why not? Wouldn't you agree that a company working on space travel is an ideal choice for an engineering student, where Twitter might not be?
Nevermind the actual employee satisfaction rate is sub-par. You're conflating fresh-faced idealism with reality.
Xaxxon t1_iyehato wrote
> a company working on space travel
There are many of those that don't come anywhere near.
It's Musks leadership that differentiates spacex.
Is his leadership style all happy feelgood all the time? Heck no. But is it effective in empowering engineers to solve massive problems quickly? Evidence strongly points to yes.
jorgesoos t1_iyehzxl wrote
Are his companies consistently ranked the best two places to work, as per your initial claim?
chesterpower t1_iyel7ip wrote
How do you know any of these sources actually back up what you’re trying to say? You clearly didn’t read, or misunderstood this one.
Tisarwat t1_iyem56g wrote
Huh, weird, I can't see any reply from Xaxxon. I just hear crickets chirping.
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ygofukov t1_iyeqvq8 wrote
"Hmm, who sounds 'ethnic' or like a female I can't sexually assault and force into an NDA..."
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ubioandmph t1_iyes0tw wrote
She should play the uno reverse card and resign next week, just because she can
LordTegucigalpa t1_iyes595 wrote
He actually had the team write an app like Tinder that showed all the profile pics. He just swiped for a while to figure out who to keep.
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sudo_robyn t1_iyeslml wrote
He’s a billionaire, he didn’t need to go on a firing spree.
lasvegasnv11 t1_iyesv0o wrote
You're on a device with internet, you should show us one. Or a subreddit where his employees speak on how great theyre treated
Saito1337 t1_iyeu97y wrote
Just admit that your original claim was a blatant lie and move on.
sandsurfngbomber t1_iyex0bq wrote
Know a lot of engineering grads from a top US aerospace college - this is valid. Even with all the wildness around Musk and his companies, they would still accept an offer from Tesla/SpaceX in a heartbeat. The simple reason is that these are very competitive places to get hired and work. Everyone knows it's long hours, burnouts, ridiculous management etc. But everyone wants to go there because after 1-2 years the exit opportunities lead to very good positions at other top firms.
It's the same as finance people wanting to work at banks that are known to be sweatshops. Investment banks, private equity will work you 80+ hours/week. But they still have tens of thousands of applicants per position because everyone knows if you can survive it your life is set.
The only thing that changes here if having these names on a resume can hurt your future chances. Then competitive students/entry-level applicants will steer clear. Till then, these companies will not have a shortage of top grads lining up for interviews.
2SP00KY4ME t1_iyex982 wrote
> sexually assault and force into an NDA
No longer an option :)
Xaxxon t1_iyexnct wrote
Yeah. They are
Xaxxon t1_iyexp71 wrote
I’m not required to monitor Reddit constantly 24 hours a day in order to make comments.
Xaxxon t1_iyexrz5 wrote
Employees speak on how they are treated by continuing to work there and succeed.
People that work at spacex and Tesla would not be hard pressed to find other jobs.
Mcbadguy t1_iyez0xh wrote
Dwight: A really good headhunter would storm your village at sunset with overwhelming force
chesterpower t1_iyezp33 wrote
This is the comment I responded to:
> His established companies are consistently ranked the top two places to work. At least for engineers.
I don’t doubt that students would perceive two of the most well known companies in their fields to be top employment opportunities. I don’t doubt that those jobs lead to better future employment opportunities either.
I do doubt that they are consistently ranked as the top places to work at by current or past employees, and the source provided gives no evidence to back up that claim.
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Xaxxon t1_iyf1hrx wrote
How many sources do you need?
Also it’s disappointing how bad people are at googling.
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chesterpower t1_iyf3xa0 wrote
So they are the top places to work because employees continue to work there? That would probably mean they have the highest employee retention.
Doing a quick search of top employee retention rates by company, I don’t see either company even mentioned, let alone at the top. In fact, the only place I saw either mentioned is in this article. If you scroll to the last chart on the page and filter by automotive industry, you will see that Tesla is not near the top, but actually at the very bottom of the list.
chesterpower t1_iyf5kqm wrote
“US engineering students rankings.” This is just as irrelevant to your original claim as your first source. Why not read them first?
Moneia t1_iyf5zpp wrote
And I don't know if that's better or worse
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Fly_Pelican t1_iyfb2x1 wrote
Raise the gate a little!
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Saito1337 t1_iyfc5ve wrote
Once again, that article does not state what you have claimed. At all. Being attractive to students IS NOT a measure of worker satisfaction. It's merely a measure of naive students interests. Your claim was a lie, and continues to be.
Jaedos t1_iyfd7uz wrote
Keep arguing with IRL people in my tech circles who refuse to acknowledge that Melon isn't the engineering genius he claims to be. Even with the Twitter shit show, they're doubling down.
No, Melon has had entire teams of people whose sole job it was to keep him from being a fucking liability while at Tesla and SpaceX. He doesn't have that at Twitter and it fucking shows.
He's like the boss who grew up with a garage band he loves, but then he got a roadie (.. thats not right... Word for band obsessed fan?) pregnant, dissolved the band, and spent the next twenty years moving up the ranks of his dad's company even when he wasn't qualified. He's making money now, but everyone hates him, he hates himself, his kids and ex hate him, so all he has left in life is to make more money than everyone around him.
The best thing Melon could do is put someone smart in charge of Twitter, and then just go on a year long sabbatical, change his face, and go make some actual friends. Poor fuck is surrounded by yes-men and has no actual friends.
charlotte-ent t1_iyczxkd wrote
Now she should do fuck all and just take the paycheck...
Are they going to reinstate all of the other wrongly fired Europeans who live in countries with better employment protections than the US? I'm pretty sure there are a number of other lawsuits.