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Oooooo 5c on every 1.70L while Esso posts record profits. I'll gladly pay the extra 5c to give to taxes for the price gouging from corporations to stop.

How about this clown fixes the health care issues he caused first?

Did Biden make gas prices high in Canada too? /s

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If I wasn't poor I'd give you gold for this comment 🥇

Countries should cut gas taxes completely for consumers and make up the difference by taxing oil company profits while enforcing price gouging regulations. Let the rich shoulder the burden for a change.

No, but Trudeau is the cause of inflation across the world.

Carbon tax and dividend

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Oooh, CANADA'S Ontario

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And non of these bullshit carbon offsets. Paying a company not to DeForest the land they own is not a fucking offset.

No, because the ownership would still be private, they would just have to pay their fair share of taxes and make sacrifices like any other patriotic citizen has for the last 100 years while they got subsidies and free infrastructure.

There is an Ontario in California. Address is also Ontario, CA. Lol

Good call, Wayne.

I live in Ontario and I like blaming Biden for everything... long lines at Timmies, construction, dogshits...

There's an Ontario (city) in like 7 states including California so just putting Ontario CA can be confusing.
Fun fact: Ontario California was named after Ontario Canada by the Chaffey brothers who established the town after moving from Ontario Canada

I look forward to every building in Ontario California going up in the flames of a wildfire. Lol

Ford is a dumb, bag-of-discarded-foreskins of a man, but most voters didn't bother to come out and vote against him so Ontarians did this to themselves

It's a fine principle, but not effective. You can't tax "profits" because they will find ways to move money around so that they have "zero profit", paying shell companies for consulting services, etc.

Further, taxing a corporation for their income, or taxing the consumer purchasing the good they sell is effectively the same; both cause the corporation to raise their price by the same amount and both cause money to be taken out of the transaction and sent to the government.

RIP cap and trade... https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-officially-ends-cap-and-trade-1.4885872

I'm not sure what point you're making. Do you think he should be free from criticism? Or are you engaging in shadenfreude for all the people who are enduring long wait times at the emergency rooms?

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As a current student, I wish he extended the tuition tax credit on ON479 Line 63055, but he apparently doesn’t value education in this province. This is also apparent in the way he used a built-in loophole in the Constitution to impose a contract on workers belonging to CUPE.

I agree he should be fixing our healthcare issues, but he's hardly the one that caused them. A lot of this shit has been happening for a lot longer than he's been in power.

he definitely isnt free from criticism but the election was in june and hes what ontario voted for. obviously not all ontarians support him or his policies but it seems like whatever his policies on healthcare were, thats what voters wanted

As an Ontarian who voted NDP (the liberals didn’t even run in my riding), yet the riding went to the Cons anyways, the pain is real

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They just raise the price by 5c anyway.

The only difference to average people will be the lack of tax revenue to pay for the services they used to enjoy.

Or…. What if we tax the shit out of those natural resource profits and increase the lowest income tax bracket to $90k and call it a day.

Great. We can afford to drive to the hospital still but have to wait for 12 hours to see a doctor. Thanks for having our backs Doug the Slug.

I take it no one thought to tell them "this could get confusing down the road."

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I understood your sarcasm :(

He won a majority government with 40% of the vote. FPTP is an abomination, and 60% of Ontario's voters said no to him. Don't pretend like this is anything other than Ontario's people suffering from the results of a rigged game.

im aware that canadians dislike how their system is set up, but liberals and ndp have won in ontario before, and they did that by winning a minority of the vote share as well. its how the game is set up and clearly the opposition parties did not play it effectively and neither did their voters

The point I'm making is that this is what people voted for. Not voting is an approval of the status quo. If people cared, they would have voted, but they didn't so this is on them.

The grasshopper who sang all summer, and what not.

THE MAJORITY DIDN'T VOTE.

It takes 10 mins to vote in most of Ontario.

People asked for this. Every person who didn't vote or voted Con is to blame for this shit show. Period.

Is Ford to blame, sure. But he's the scorpion and the people who didn't vote or voted con are the dumb ass frogs complaining now.

Well considering their main form of long distance communication was a letter delivered by horse... I don't think they did consider how the internet and instant worldwide communication might leads to problems with same name cities...

haha, Fair enough.

And of those that did vote, the majority didn't want him. FPTP ensured that the 60% of people who voted against Ford went unheard. Voter apathy is a problem brought on by a broken system, not the other way around.

So it is schadenfreude about the kids who don't have hospital beds. Yeah, they really fucked up when they failed to vote. Or....maybe you're being myopic and expressing some very childish sentiments.

No it isn't. The system is broken people who are uninformed fuck-you-got-mine types. If the 60% that didn't vote at all came out and voted NDP or Liberal, he wouldn't be in power anymore, particularly not with a majority.

People wait in line 8 hours to vote for either the shit party or omg-what-is-that party in the USA but people here can't saunter over and check a box? Guess they prefer to wait in ERs for 8 hours with their sick kids instead.

Or maybe their parents should have spent a few minutes voting instead. I don't blame the kids, I blame their dumb ass parents who are getting what they deserve.

And for people in the USA, its basically 100% more important then the entirety of canada, since it is a major shipping hub on the west coast. You randomly see your box hit Ontario, CA and wonder for a sec why its in toronto :P

In Australia we mainly use three letter state abbreviations, helps avoid this. That said we also tend to use Aus instead of AU, so

Still going to 2 bucks or more. We’re fucked.

Like healthcare and roads!

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Canada's Ontario still sitting on Federal money to help pay for Health Care but won't because he's an evil fat piece of shit.

Too bad. AU would have been gold.

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Can we tax their revenue instead of profit ?

Yeah you can definitely expect Ontario roads to go to shit. One benefit is there may be less traffic congestion due to less road maintenance and improvement.

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Lol oh ya? I voted ndp too. A liberal also ran, but in my riding, C got 51.9% of the vote - the biggest % of any riding.

Or maybe some of the parents did spend a few minutes voting. Or were not allowed to vote because they're not citizens or 18. The point is, your logical tack is poor and the idea that the voter is more at fault than the politician is really childish.

first problem is that only 43% of eligible voters actually voted

I blame both.

Amazing comment that I suspect will go over many heads. It deserves a gilding.

> Don't pretend like this is anything other than Ontario's people suffering from the results of a rigged game.

The game isn't rigged. 75% of eligible voters did not vote against him. about 74.25% if you want to be more precise, but no vote at all is functionally identical to being content with what the largest group of voters selects. 74.25% of Ontario was given the option to get rid of Ford and said no.

Ford is a corrupt scumbag, jackass, and liar, and all Canadians are worse off for every moment he spends in politics, but given the option to get rid of him, 3 out of 4 people in Ontario said no. That's not a rigged game, that's a lazy, stupid, or uncaring population.

Why? Giving gold is just a cash donation to Reddit

I downvoted it anyway, because plenty of pp supporters won't recognize the sarcasm and will be emboldened by what they perceive as other people chanting their lines.

I know. An absence of nuance isn't really something to be proud of yet, here you are.

I know buy I'm a health care worker and I appreciated the comment.

It would result in the same thing as op just said. They would adjust prices to compensate to keep their profit margins similar. The only way to force their hand is to take a measure of control of the company itself. Force it to set a limit on price in relation to CPI, have windfall tax on profits that far exceed what they make, have quotas for refined oil they can process/sell

The govt would have to basically control the price and quantity. This is real Socialism. But outside of that there is no real way to force companies to pay their 'fair share' in a capitalist system

Even if they adjust price to maintain profits, taxing their revenue actually generate income for the government to spend on things. They can do shady tax avoidance to pay 0% tax if we only tax profit.

How can you establish an effective tax on revenue when business expenses vary so widely? And if a business increases it's expenses through nonsense like 'consulting fees' it will artificially increase their expenses

Ontario health care system has problems for 40+ years and no government wants to touch that hot potato. Problems are just piling up.

Same goes for education system.

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ditto kiddo

Where is my nuance lacking?

Your ability to decipher it.

Lol so this is what I said:

>An absence of nuance isn't really something to be proud of yet, here you are.

Which, to be frank, is my openly stating that you lack nuance. And, to be accurate, you do. Your position is the sort of thing I'd expect to hear from a teenager. And then you reply with this:

>Ditto kiddo

Which, to be honest, is a little puzzling because everything I said was nuanced. So I questioned that. And then you said this:

>Your ability to decipher it.

Which makes me wonder. Do you understand what the words 'nuance' or 'ditto' mean?

Do you?

Look at you, unable to find nuance in anything you don't agree with, sad really.

What nuance is there in "those sick kids' parents should have voted better?" None. It's childish.

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You want me to do the job your parents and teachers didn't do and educate you? No thanks. If you don't understand, that's on you. Look I don't know what you continuously saying "I don't have the mental capacity to understand your arguments" is supposed to accomplish that it hasn't already. I get that you don't understand, you don't have to prove it over and over.

Well this is one of those childish things you said:

>The point I'm making is that this is what people voted for. Not voting is an approval of the status quo. If people cared, they would have voted, but they didn't so this is on them.

>The grasshopper who sang all summer, and what not.

So where you obviously fucked up is in failing to consider that the people who voted against Ford are in the same boat as the people who voted for him. Because you seem to think nobody voted. This was confirmed in the next few comments you made.

And then when I pressed you on it, you basically shut down to single sentences to try to distance yourself from your really really really stupid argument. And now you're trying to make this about me when it's actually about the stupid point you made. Which you can try but I won't let you. So as long as you keep replying I feel comfortable reminding you.

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This you?

>If people cared, they would have voted, but they didn't so this is on them.

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