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Puzzleworth t1_iw9pznh wrote

Reply to comment by HippySol in At least 16 high school hockey players were injured after an allegedly intoxicated semi-truck driver crashed into their team bus | CNN by JBupp

The intersection in that case was also poorly designed.

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mousewine t1_iwaow24 wrote

Only if you don't stop at the stop sign

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draven501 t1_iwbt7s7 wrote

There are literally thousands of intersections like that throughout the Canadian prairies, it was a 2 way stop. They did put big(ger) flashing red lights on the stop signs after the Broncos tragedy though.

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GryphonsPride t1_iwa3bgp wrote

Uh no it wasn't. In the direction the truck was going, you could see the stop sign 3 miles before the intersection. Trees on the south east corner only had a negative effect if you weren't going to stop. At the stop sign there was clear visibility in all directions.

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Ray_Pingeau t1_iwans54 wrote

I live 20 minutes east of humboldt and an hour south of the accident site. That intersection was known for accidents. It’s not so much that the intersection was poorly built. It’s the fact that someone lives on the south east corner and the yard WAS heavily treed. There was no way to see traffic coming and many people paid the price. The trees have been torn down since and they now have a flashing light for the stop sign as that isn’t the first time someone didn’t see it.

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LeafsWinBeforeIDie t1_iwc032z wrote

Was it that traffic is so low out there people treat it as "stop-tional" and if they can see (or think they see), they don't even slow down?

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Ray_Pingeau t1_iwc1n3z wrote

No. It’s actually the main highway in the area. It’s also a junction that leads to all the communities in the area. I mean, it’s not the transcanada by any means. The population up there is sparse in comparison to the more southern part of Saskatchewan.

People have bitched about the tree line in the past, but no one important enough died at that intersection. After that accident swept across the world, they levelled the trees and now has the brightest flashing stop light I’ve ever seen. I mean you see that light from ten minutes away at night. It lights up the immediate area.

That tree line made it so you couldn’t see north bound traffic when heading west and vice versa. It was even said, when it first happened, that the bus driver may have been able to avoid the accident had he had a line of site. He wouldn’t have seen the semi until it was too late.

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GryphonsPride t1_iwf0csh wrote

From the Canadian Encyclopedia website: A review by the Saskatchewan government of the crossroads where the crash occurred found that the frequency of collisions there is low compared with other intersections in Saskatchewan. Even so, the intersection was the scene of another deadly crash in 1997, when six family members were killed after their pickup truck sped through the crossroads without stopping, colliding with a tractor-trailer.

2 deadly accidents in 20 years. The number of casualties is high but if there were 2 casualties, would it be considered a dangerous intersection that needed all the additional safety features added?

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quadriplegic_cheetah t1_iwalfok wrote

I don’t even think the human eye can identify a stop sign from 3 miles away. So that’s not really valuable information.

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quadriplegic_cheetah t1_iwan3v3 wrote

No road sign in the world is visible from 3 miles away. That’s my point. The human visual field doesn’t allow that. Even 1 mile is pushing it.

And no need to be rude.

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