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LeafsWinBeforeIDie t1_iwc1e15 wrote

Covid took a lot of people from normal drinkers to a more dangerous place. The amount of wine moms picking up their kids from school after half a bottle is way too damn high.

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jcfan4u t1_iwc1pgp wrote

I get what you're saying, but I'm trying to equate how drinking = loser. Obviously if you drink and drive you're a piece of shit, but to say drinking at all makes you a loser is a stupid thing to say.

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LeafsWinBeforeIDie t1_iwc3m0l wrote

That was OPs take, not mine. A lot of people have let alcohol have more negative effects on them than before the pandemic. I don't think people losing their struggle or not even able to identify their problem with alcohol use are losers.

I do think people who excuse that into affecting others (by driving for example) are absolutely losers. Get as fucked up as you want without hurting people, it's your life and your health. Drunk driving is engrained in some cultures (like the southern US) in some truly appalling ways that would blow the mind of a European driver. In the end it's as much the increase of general selfishness in people post pandemic as it is the rise in alcoholism.

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