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D_Alex t1_ixp5zh9 wrote

Reply to comment by drawkbox in European Parliament declares Russia a state sponsor of terrorism by twotwo_twentytwo

>the West's efforts to open Iran

Including:

>Why does the Kremlin not want Iran to make a trade deal and nuclear deal with the West?

Dunno...

>Here's the real test: If you had to choose between being allied/owned by Russia or allied with the West, which would you choose?

I choose "being allied with Russia". Now - are you going to respect my choice, or send in the CIA to destabilise my country?

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drawkbox t1_ixp9iz3 wrote

At least you admit you are pro-Russia.

The thing is, Russia setup the Shahdom, it was really still a monarchy they also setup the "elections" which were meant to make the Soviets look like good stewards. Same front Putin tried when he took over in 2000, it was immediately apparent that was not sincere. The thing is, Russia has "elections" not elections. They make a mockery of the system and manipulate, pump leveraged candidates and do not allow true opposition. The same type of "democracy" they put in Russia is what they do in their places they try to front and act like it is valid, it isn't. Mosaddegh was a Soviet puppet meant to take Iran to the same place that Soviets took them in 1979, hardline theocratic state, they were already doing this in Syria and Soviet Republics like Chechnya.

The Iran/Iraq war and South America was another round of Kremlin trying to create divisions/separatism/balkanization/civil wars/chaos to put their leveraged puppets in power using active measures and agents of influence in the countries, overstepping their sovereignty without their approval in most cases, just like Iran. They put in people, then get mad and want to remove them, over and over. The people that will be autocrats and give their bratvas what they need they keep them in power forever (Syria (Assad and his father), North Korea (Kims), etc).

Myanmar and Sri Lanka today are what the Kremlin does to places before rebuilding, they coup using the military or break the economic system as a start. They have done this to Argentina many, many, many times. Venezuela as well. Taking the Russian "deal" is a leverage play and only the biggest sukas in history fall for it. Xi being one of the biggest dunces in this regard. MBS as well. Good luck to them.

Since Russia and the Kremlin have a tsarist/mafia state style and are authoritarian/autocratic with fixed markets, no one in the West is down with that and many people under those systems aren't with it either. If you like that, you do you.

US wasn't even a superpower until 1945, didn't have intel until 1947. Meanwhile Russia has had intel since 1800s, and was running the Great Game and prior conquests/imperialism for centuries. It is hilarious when they blame the CIA, it is almost cartoon level absurd.

We can agree to disagree.

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D_Alex t1_ixpa996 wrote

Sure, we can agree to disagree. But honestly, you seem to be poorly informed and quite biased on the matter of US meddling in the affairs of other countries.

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drawkbox t1_ixpadfv wrote

Sure, we can agree to disagree. But honestly, you seem to be poorly informed and quite biased on the matter of Kremlin meddling in the affairs of other countries.

I'd prefer the Kremlin leave Iran alone and let them get the nuclear deal and into the world markets. The people of Iran deserve a break and to stop being used as a Kremlin front to attack the world like all the other Kremlin client states.

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D_Alex t1_ixpbjte wrote

>prefer the Kremlin leave Iran alone and let them get the nuclear deal and into the world markets.

Man... you really are poorly informed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_withdrawal_from_the_Joint_Comprehensive_Plan_of_Action

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drawkbox t1_ixpg0yy wrote

Trump was a Kremlin puppet, you can't be this dense.

Obama got the deal, Biden is working on getting it back.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Comprehensive_Plan_of_Action#Re-entry_negotiations_(2021%E2%80%932022)

Kremlin NEEDS to have no nuclear deal and the world to keep blocking Iran from the market, it is how they own their client states like Iran, Cuba, Venezuela and more. Same technique from the Iron Curtain days.

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