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jens-2420 t1_j23x82t wrote

China is getting problems: More countries will want negative tests before allowing entrance from China.

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TintedApostle t1_j248o6x wrote

Is this because the rules work and it is making the rest of China look bad?

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JaggedMetalOs t1_j24foyd wrote

Rules in HK were always a lot more lax than the mainland, and they had a really big wave of infections around Feb with omicron. So for most of the year HK has just had a steady stream of infections, basically already at the "living with covid" stage so the rules that were still in place were kind of pointless.

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PlankOfWoood t1_j232r83 wrote

That’s one way to have biological warfare.

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blargle125 t1_j235zlj wrote

Is that why the west went about business as usual when omicron was first discovered?

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Bison256 t1_j23jsfc wrote

Don't let logic get in the way of their xenophobia.

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AshIsGroovy t1_j23svi5 wrote

What the fuck ever. Part of the issue and the main reason China kept the lockdowns in place is the vaccine they developed just isn't effective. Studies put it's effectiveness at 1/3rd of the effectiveness of western vaccines. China had mandatory vaccinations the west didn't. In most western counties though they experienced some form of lockdown they never experienced anything near what China has done and while lockdowns work to an extent you need an effective vaccine to get you out of a permanent lockdown. The fear now is China spreading a new variant that makes western vaccines non-effective and putting the world back to square one or worse. Also Russian vaccines weren't anywhere near as effective as western ones but Russia has cut itself off from the rest of the world via the Ukraine war and people are more likely to die from combat than COVID. In the coming decades Russia will face a horrible population crisis with the loss of so many due to disease and war.

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mrgodail t1_j244br4 wrote

> The fear now is China spreading a new variant that makes western vaccines non-effective and putting the world back to square one or worse.

Ironic because there's a new variant that originated out of America called XBB and it is super contagious.

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circumtopia t1_j26g512 wrote

That is a crazy amount of misinformation in one comment.

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AshIsGroovy t1_j26zuxj wrote

says the guy who only comments on covid news articles

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circumtopia t1_j28j8st wrote

Yeah but you're still wrong. Their vaccines is just as effective at 3 doses for severe outcomes compared to mRNA vaccines.

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2022/04/19/how-chinas-sinovac-compares-with-biontechs-mrna-vaccine

The US has a sub 10% booster rate for the past 6 months so it's a moot point anyway. That's why covid is rampant worldwide. No one is boosting anymore.

Which brings us to the last point. You're afraid of variants from 1.4 billion Chinese but the 6 billion other non Chinese that got covid in the last year or so didn't collapse society. Get a grip.

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pinewind108 t1_j23yso7 wrote

I suspect that we won't see many varients from China, just because there will be no pressure on the virus to evolve.

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Bison256 t1_j23wgs5 wrote

Too long didn't read. Seems like blah blah China, Russia bad anyway.

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dexecuter18 t1_j243c2x wrote

TLDR Autocracies lie about effectiveness of their mandatory vaccines, get shot in the foot over it.

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sudeepharya t1_j24q8me wrote

Don't let big words get in the way of real logic.

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THExGIRTH t1_j25uzhh wrote

And now countries are limiting travel from china. The viral spread potential just went up a truck load thanks to them pretty much killing every rule for if you have covid.

I understand lacing the rules a little bit but this is nuts and will cause a bigger problem since people are still traveling for the holidays and such.

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AtomicBlastCandy t1_j25pb9b wrote

Watch them institute them in full once protests start back up.

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Riot55 t1_j24fymf wrote

Okay I guess I haven't been following that closely. How did their situation get so bad when I thought they had the most restrictive covid/lock down procedures?

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onlypositivity t1_j24kqrz wrote

HK had different rules than China at large.

China manufactured their own vaccine, and it wasn't very effective.

China also instituted very long, draconian lockdowns, and eventually people broke and started rioting, ending said lockdowns.

China is now a covid shit storm.

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