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Ksh_667 t1_j25bgep wrote

Reply to comment by LenyAK in One of eight teen girls charged in Toronto stabbing death granted bail by liquid_deflation

I'm upvoting you cos I'm grateful for the info but imo protecting names is not helpful to someone who may feel they're "getting away with not being known" & thus have no incentive not to do it again. I get that they are innocent til proven guilty, I just don't see the hiding of identity having any positive effect.

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GoArray t1_j25eddg wrote

What positive effect(s) does releasing their identity, especially prior to conviction, have?

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Ksh_667 t1_j25khtd wrote

As I mentioned, it can encourage victims to come forward.

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GoArray t1_j25qbks wrote

Specific to this person, that could all come after conviction.

More generally, law enforcement could put out a statement with details asking others to come forward while still withholding the suspect's identity.

Anybody close enough to know her identity, doesn't need the news to tell them. To any other "stranger" victims, her identity does nothing but reinforce confirmation bias.

Being completely honest, you're looking to play internet detective. Wanting to know who she is, understandable as we're a curious species.. but ultimately that's the authorities job, you (the internet) will just bloody the waters.

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Ksh_667 t1_j26fp7p wrote

After conviction would be too late if someone had information relevant to this person that could impact tbe case. I'm in the uk & have never been to the us or Canada, I'm not sure what confirmation bias you think I'm looking for & I dont see how a name can give that.

I do like playing internet detective, it's a popular pastime lol. But in this case I dont think sherlock Holmes levels of deduction are required. That's more for r/unsolvedmysteries.

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GoArray t1_j26n2yq wrote

See, I thought this was already a thing in the uk and 'western' europe? Basically a tactic to stem blatent defimation.

Anyway, as per confirmation bias, recently a professor quasi connected to another tragic event was named, "investigated" and shamed by the internet. Detectives haven't even named a suspect yet. Yet, the great internet sleuths have already hung this professor with an army in toe. If, for w.e. reason, this prof ends up on the stand you can bet money the jury pool will largely be tainted.. minimal real evidence confirming w.e. they already believe to be true that they learned from fb, or reddit, or w.e.

You (not personally) aren't playing fair, you won't go looking for evidence to clear this person or that they love kittens, you're looking for evidence to support your belief in their guilt.

We know nothing of the case, nor this girl's roll in it, yet look at the comments. Blood's in the water, imagine if we had literally any access to their irl identity.

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BestCatEva t1_j25hjkw wrote

But, age 13 makes this a little bit different.

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Ksh_667 t1_j25kw1e wrote

Is that the age of the person bailed? Sorry if I missed that. But if there are other victims out there, they should be given every chance to feel they can come forward.

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LenyAK t1_j25ckqu wrote

This is their reasoning, I don't necessarily agree. Canada's justice system is too focused on rehabilitation and not punishment, IMO to the detriment of society. But there are certain cases when they will publish a name, such as when are actively searching for an offender.

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Ksh_667 t1_j25dryg wrote

I'm in uk & although childrek that we publish names to encourage other victims to come forward, ip punishment but I do get sick of seeing victims treated as less impt than perps.

Edit: looking at this comment this morning, it is nonsense. I was very tired when I typed it & can't make sense of it myself now. There's whole lines missing. Sorry bout that.

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Ksh_667 t1_j25l5t7 wrote

I never thought about their ethnicity, you are ascribing intent that really isn't there. I'm not white myself & believe me I know all about criminalization of minorities & have personal experience of this.

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