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lightninggod3 t1_j2dty49 wrote

What if the abortion doctor fucks up and kills the mother?

I'm sure Arizona has abortion limits to as to when one could get an abortion, what if they give a woman an abortion at 8 months that shouldn't have been able to get an abortion in Arizona?


freshandminty t1_j2dwfp1 wrote

According to the NIH medical errors kill 100,000 people a year making it potentially the third leading cause of death in the US per John’s Hopkins. So I’m pretty sure there are processes in place for malpractice that leads to death without using that particular AZ law. Having said that, per the NIH again you are 14 times more likely to die from childbirth than abortion.


lightninggod3 t1_j2dwp9r wrote

Okay, that sounds good. Then, this post should be worded differently if abortion doctors can still be charged with malpractice.


PuellaBona t1_j2e1rc9 wrote

You realize that abortion isn't a specialty. There's no such thing as "abortion doctor"


lightninggod3 t1_j2e1uk6 wrote

The post literally says "abortion doctors"...


PuellaBona t1_j2e6ms1 wrote

That doesn't make it real.


lightninggod3 t1_j2e6yb4 wrote

Okay... However you read "abortion doctors" in the post, read it as though I'm mentioning the same doctors in my mention of "abortion doctors". Thanks.


meekaANDmochi t1_j2e7m9m wrote

Abortions are one of the safest medical procedures you can have.


lightninggod3 t1_j2e83m3 wrote

Cool, and if the doctor fucked it up, patients should be able to sue. Thanks


meekaANDmochi t1_j2e8c30 wrote

Obviously. This has absolutely nothing to do with that though. You should look up the statistics on abortions. It’s one of the safest medical procedures out there. I don’t know why you’re spouting off about medical malpractice.


lightninggod3 t1_j2e900e wrote

Abortion doctors can’t be charged under Arizona is the post right? I'm making the point that the post is incorrect in saying this as malpractice exists and so the post is wrong. I don’t know why you care


meekaANDmochi t1_j2e9ok4 wrote

You’re not very bright, are you? The article is saying they can’t be charged criminally for performing abortions within the 15 weeks allowed by the law. Malpractice is not a criminal offense. It is a civil offense. This ruling has no bearing on medical malpractice. You’re fighting an imaginary fight. Did you even read the article?


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xAtlas5 t1_j2eh0fn wrote

You could have just said "the headline sucks" instead of going on a rant about malpractice suits. Did you even bother to read the article?


FireproofSolid3 t1_j2el7yj wrote

It only sucks because you read it wrong. You don't "charge" someone for malpractice. It means something specific in this case.


MoonageDayscream t1_j2ezw9g wrote

It's you, not the headline. You are so focused on your silly narrative you can't see it makes perfect sense. As the headline states, this law cannot be used to prosecute doctors for abortions. That has absolutely no effect on the other laws (like malpractice) that a doctor could be prosecuted under. It most certainly does not say that a doctor can't be charged under any law, just that they can't be charged with violating this one, pre statehood, law.


commoncollector t1_j2e6m2g wrote

Abortions are not performed at 8 months unless the fetus is already dead or it will die shortly after birth, or it may kill the mother. Please go get educated on the subject before talking nonsense.


lightninggod3 t1_j2e763n wrote

Please understand I meant in the terms where 8 month abortion would NOT be allowed by the state and a doctor performs the abortion anyway. Please go get educated on reading before talking nonsense. Thanks.


ritzmachine t1_j2eov5h wrote

Why are you so obsessed with a scenario that has never happened and never would? You need to educate yourself about the development of the human fetus, and how pregnancy is handled at different stages. No medical professional is going to remove an 8 month fetus unless the mother's life is in danger, or it's being born early. In that case they would keep the new born baby in the hospital until they are sure it's healthy.

Your "What if?" is nonsense, because it would never happen and you can't seem to comprehend why.


lightninggod3 t1_j2ep0q4 wrote

I'm obsessed? Lmao what. Go touch grass


ritzmachine t1_j2es5z4 wrote

Yes, you are. You have replied in the double digits arguing with people over this, while completely ignoring how illogical everyone is telling you it is. You're obsessed because you can't let this nonsense scenario go. You're so stuck on some "8 month abortion" which has never happened.

And when showed that it doesn't make any sense, you reply the way you just did to me. "touch grass". Alright. You're still obsessed and wrong.


meekaANDmochi t1_j2e7j8z wrote

An “abortion” at 8 months is just a birth.


lightninggod3 t1_j2e7phh wrote

What are you talking about? I obviously mean "abortion" as in the killing of the fetus


meekaANDmochi t1_j2e826a wrote

Abortion is a medical procedure. The only reason a fetus would be terminated at 8 months is if something was gravely wrong with it or it was already dead. If the mother’s life was in danger, and the fetus was healthy, they’d remove the fetus via BIRTH (ya know c section) and still try to save the fetus. Nobody is killing a healthy fetus at 8 months.


lightninggod3 t1_j2e8c33 wrote

Gotcha, you see my point is if a doctor does kill a healthy fetus at 8 months., they should be charged


meekaANDmochi t1_j2e8er2 wrote

Why are you so focused on something that literally doesn’t happen?


lightninggod3 t1_j2e8q58 wrote

Why are you so focused on the idea of letting a doctor who kills a healthy fetus at 8 months go without being charged? Thanks.


meekaANDmochi t1_j2e8wom wrote

It’s a stupid argument because it’s not a thing based in reality! It does not happen! You’re worked up over something that is not real. Go ahead, try to find ONE instance of a doctor performing an abortion on a healthy fetus at 8 months in Arizona. YOU CANT BECAUSE ITS NOT REAL.


lightninggod3 t1_j2e9bjo wrote

You're the one getting worked up... Not real? It is something that could happen and if that happened I would want the doctor to be charged. The post says, "Abortion doctors can’t be charged under Arizona". I would want such a doctor charged if they kill a healthy fetus at 8 months. Thanks


meekaANDmochi t1_j2e9r41 wrote

Try reading beyond the headline and maybe your pea brain will be able to comprehend.


lightninggod3 t1_j2e9wxz wrote

The headline is wrong is my entire point. Maybe your small brain will comprehend that


meekaANDmochi t1_j2eambo wrote

Yeah I’m sure 😂 that’s why your original comment I replied to said nothing about the headline and then you continued to double down on why an abortion at 8 months is wrong.


lightninggod3 t1_j2eb4jg wrote

Okay... And? The post says, "Abortion doctors can’t be charged under Arizona law". The post is wrong precisely due to the fact that said "abortion doctors" can be charged in a case where a healthy fetus is killed after the 15-week point


meekaANDmochi t1_j2ebzl7 wrote

The “post” is more than a headline. There’s an entire article attached to it. If you read the article as intended instead of hyperfocusing on the title, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. Regardless, you never mentioned the article once before being called out on not reading it. You’ve been fighting about 8 month abortions this entire time.


CmdrShepard831 t1_j2fblkh wrote

God I am just sitting here wondering what this guy is like in real life. It's like you're talking to a door or a lamp except both of those things have practical benefits.


soldforaspaceship t1_j2ea3eo wrote

Absolutely. I'm completely OK with deciding that in a hypothetical case that has never happened we can hold the doctor accountable. Feel better?