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katarina-stratford t1_j1getcg wrote

Remember when we found out the Uvalde police dept had done active shooter training at the Uvalde high school just a couple of months before hand?

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28943857347372634648 t1_j1ixrew wrote

This is different. The Uvalde training was for police. This training is for employees.

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biscoito1r t1_j1g374b wrote

Even after stopping an active shooter, you'll have to worry about a trigger happy cop. Remember what happened at that club where the security guard restrained the shooter and was shot by the police even with ppl telling the police not to shoot because that was the security guard. We need to stop hiring Keystone cops.

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xXnoobXxFIN t1_j1hpz0q wrote

And those people get fired for that. Cops don't.

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shariewayne t1_j1i7s18 wrote

For nurses & teachers, there are consequences. For cops, there's a paid vacation, or just the same job in a different place in the same city.

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DusktheWolf t1_j1if1n8 wrote

Teacher and Nurse unions don't protect murderers and rapists. But the cops and priests sure do.

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EightandaHalf-Tails t1_j1g2536 wrote

How is active shooter training for LGBTQ+ venues different than active shooter training for non-LGBTQ+ venues..?

It's a person shooting other people, who cares who they're having sex with...

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CinderPetrichor t1_j1g8as5 wrote

I work at one of those venues. They are offering training for the employees, not the police. It's so we know what to do in the situation.

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Art-Zuron t1_j1glk0v wrote

What good would it do training the police to protect people from mass shooting? /s (except not really since they actually won't do anything about it apparently)

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Rawnblade12 t1_j1g2j1o wrote

Well considering how police are, they have to drill it in their skulls that you DON'T shoot the LGBTQ people.

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jaytrade21 t1_j1hr4tm wrote

Nah, they are just going to bring out a machine guns that kills everyone and then blame the "shooter" for all the deaths and then hi-five themselves and go for a beer before they go home and beat their spouses.

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YaGirlKellie t1_j1id3dh wrote

That's more or less how the biker shootout in Waco went. Police still haven't revealed how many innocent people they shot that day.

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ProjectMoonsong t1_j1g46yy wrote

The difference is that LGBTQ+ venues, and venues that are supportive of LGBTQ+ (like Libraries) have been increasingly the target of violence, threats, and shootings, so it makes sense to devote some funding to provide active shooter training.

It's the same reason why schools have those active shooter drills. The system is sick and politics are fucked, so it's not possible to stop every maybe shooters, but you can at least train people in targeted sectors to hopefully reduce the potential number of casualties.

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km89 t1_j1in2qg wrote

I don't think the point was an "all lives matter" equivalent, but more "what's different about LGBT+ places that requires different training than any other club?"

If there's separate training, it's because there's something different about the process requiring a different curriculum. But it's not like gay clubs tend to be open spaces while straight clubs tend to have lots of rooms and hallways or something.

Regardless, the question's based on a misunderstanding. They're training employees of the venues at risk, they're not training police officers on LGBT+-specific tactics.

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DragonPup OP t1_j1g3ae4 wrote

> How is active shooter training for LGBTQ+ venues different than active shooter training for non-LGBTQ+ venues..? > >

Non LGBTQ+ venues are not specifically targeted by crazed right wing murderers.

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bananafobe t1_j1g6yhy wrote

"Not specifically targeted" doesn't mean immune.

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Gay_Genius t1_j1g5zhw wrote

Ariana Grande is beloved by the gay community and her concert usually have a high number of lgbtq people in attendance and she is very vocal in her support of the community.

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bananafobe t1_j1g7mpu wrote

It's in response to an increase in anti-LGBTQ+ violence, not about a specific response for LGBTQ+ venues.

Presumably they're offering them the kind of training they usually offer to schools, churches, etc.

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suzer2017 t1_j1hrmu5 wrote

I immediately thought of Stonewall, where the fight was against the police. Also, I thought of all the innocent people of color who have been killed by police. I really don't have enough trust to have any kind of positive reaction to this news.

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forests-of-purgatory t1_j1j6opa wrote

They aren’t training the police, they are training the employees of Queer spaces

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suzer2017 t1_j1jna7z wrote

What? Yes, of course I got that. I don't trust the police. It always amazes me how people misunderstand what seems very clear.

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forests-of-purgatory t1_j1kbj7l wrote

Who would you like to train them though? Its not quite a moment the police have to step in to save queer people, its a standard course taught as a workshop to school teachers that is being extended to them

What would you like instead?

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suzer2017 t1_j1lqnx3 wrote

Common sense gun laws and a ban on assault rifles.

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gophergun t1_j1hquer wrote

It's important to specify which police department in the headline. The current headline makes it seem like this is national or coordinated rather than just in Atlanta.

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yogfthagen t1_j1jx98v wrote

I've had 4 active shooter trainings at work.

Not surprised.

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PuraVida3 t1_j1glyd6 wrote

I work for a local judiciary. I've had to be trained how to survive in an active shooter situation. Why do I have to have a training? Why am I not being protected by my government? I can go buy a gun and that requires no training. Fuck you!

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Absolutely_N0t t1_j1hwebf wrote

If you’re carrying a gun you absolutely need training

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PuraVida3 t1_j1hzs7n wrote

Nobody said anything about carrying you ignorant twat.

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Machinor14 t1_j1k1mcf wrote

Then what is the gun doing? Sitting on a shelf at home?

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PuraVida3 t1_j1kzwip wrote

You don't understand the constitution.

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Machinor14 t1_j1l05qr wrote

I would consider untrained people to not count as "A well regulated Militia"

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celebrityDick t1_j1gdfgw wrote

Learn how to shoot back. All the active shooter training you'll ever need

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MeatsimPD t1_j1gzf2b wrote

Let's hope no one gets confused on which of the dozen people with their guns out is the real shooter

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Raspberry-Famous t1_j1hs6v2 wrote

If I had to choose between a cop or a random gay guy with a gun to protect me from a right wing terrorist I'd choose the gay guy.

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PM_NUDES_4_DOG_PICS t1_j1gex5a wrote

I'm just here to plug Pink Pistols/Operation Blazing Sword, an LGBT-focused group dedicated to educating the community on firearms safety and self-defense. They're an incredible resource and I highly encourage anyone interested in learning about defensive firearms use in an LGBT-friendly environment to check them out.

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nickcliff t1_j1gmgxl wrote

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