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Tkat113 t1_izysxa9 wrote
Because the administrators don't think rape is a problem.
k-laz t1_izz7oyr wrote
Because controversy is the real crime when you are trying to maintain image.
Tkat113 t1_izzjurl wrote
Yes. And the reason the controversy is worse, and that the biggest problem they have is maintaining an image, is because they don't think rape is a problem.
If they considered rape to be a problem, they could go "hey someone did some rape here, and we punished them harshly because rape is wrong".
Since rape isn't a problem, and is in fact perfectly fine, normal and healthy for people to engage is, you only hide it because *other* people think it's a problem. And since those people are wrong, but they make a lot of noise, then you just make it go away because it's easier.
jetbag513 t1_izzmi65 wrote
Or they're related to the rapist.
Tkat113 t1_j00dhiy wrote
There are plenty of people who are related to rapists and who turn them in and don't defend them.
But if you don't think rape is a problem, well...
Rattrap551 t1_j02tlzn wrote
it's more complicated - the male student was wearing a dress & was in the girls bathroom. So to acknowledge the incident puts into question the politics of the bathroom policy. It sparks a culture war that the left-leaning county board does not want to fight or deal with.
atomic1fire t1_j04fwim wrote
The student was/is genderfluid but that still doesn't excuse the fact that the superintendent lied to the school board and made the first girl's father into a public pariah before the truth came out and another girl in a different school was raped by the same rapist.
That should be the story, that sexual orientation is not an excuse for covering for a rapist. You can't both promote tolerance and protect people who violate consent.
Tkat113 t1_j02wk5t wrote
Bathroom policies have never been a cover for rape.
That this person was actually trans, or pretending to be trans by wearing a skirt, or is cis and wore a skirt because he felt like it, doesn't have any relevance on being a rapist.
To go "well you know it's complicated" ignores the fact that rape is routinely ignored, brushed under the carpet, and tolerated in college campuses because administration doesn't think rape is a problem.
Rattrap551 t1_j032bu6 wrote
"Bathroom policies have never been a cover for rape."
True - that's because until about 15 minutes ago, bathroom policies weren't ever contoversial. To ignore the possibility that the trans student didn't take advantage of the LGBTQ+ friendly policy of "use whichever bathroom you feel like today" is a glaring narrative ommission, but then again this is WaPo. For those that seek the whole truth, look up the original story broke by the Daily Wire.
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hillsons t1_izz6tje wrote
They tend to think that it'll be a huge ordeal for them if they actually punish the criminal, and alternatively if they just sweep the whole thing under the rug the problem will go away.
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SpaceTabs t1_j01a3fh wrote
Actually it was the third sodomy.
torpedoguy t1_j000nmb wrote
It's because normalizing abuse IS the intent here. When the right realized they couldn't easily end the peasants getting educated (not that they've stopped working on that) they began corrupting it instead.
Orders and ideology, top down, have been very fucking insistent that abuses and harm to children be protected and enabled as much as possible.
- Only the outliers; those who cause so much outrage by going too far above and beyond the current normalization that they risk the system getting fixed, are thrown under the bus.
This is why they view the truth as the real problem and not the rape; because to them it IS, and the last thing they want is for people to realize the only thing something like a rapist will be stopped is by acting outside the system.
The_SHRiIVIP t1_j002szp wrote
This assault was committed by a trans student. Do you seriously think they all lean heavily into right wing ideology in the way you’re describing? It’s more likely the school didn’t want any blowback on investigating and potentially punishing a trans student, regardless of the reason.
Ed_Durr t1_j006qxd wrote
Furthermore, Loudon County is extremely socially liberal
OutLiving t1_j011hhx wrote
The article literally stated that the student didn’t identify as a woman, just that the student wore a skirt.
Are you so brain addled you couldn’t read a 5 minute article?
Mischevouss t1_j01dbv3 wrote
Lol he assaulted one of them in female toilet to which he had access.
May be he lied about identifying as a woman to get access to his victims
OutLiving t1_j01iw52 wrote
And how the fuck would you know? This is just a random ass assumption because the asshole wore a skirt
We already know that one of the victims already had a preexisting existing relationship with him, I think we would know he was trans or pretending to be at this point, but then again Special Agent u/Mischevouss please tell the police, grand jury and every report released on this incident what they are missing because you clearly seem to know a lot
NakamericaIsANoob t1_j06gmdz wrote
Stop getting offended for a criminal, lol
OutLiving t1_j06iofn wrote
This is not being offender for a criminal, it’s correcting misinformation on whether said criminal is transgender, which the criminal wasn’t
NakamericaIsANoob t1_j06pr8f wrote
Criminal was gender fluid and supposedly used neo pronouns.
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atomic1fire t1_j04tgzf wrote
The truth is that a specific genderfluid student is a rapist, the victim's father was forcibly removed from the school board meeting, and the school administrator lied to parents and the school board about the rape taking place, sending the student to another school where [pronoun here] commited another rape.
https://www.loudoun.gov/SpecialGrandJury
One may even make the case that it was a specific biologically male student taking advantage of school policies to harass and assault female students and their actual identification doesn't matter, while the school superintendent failed to notify the police and school board because they were afraid of PR pushback.
johntwoods t1_izyyikj wrote
It's like my Dad always told me when I was a kid.
He said, "Son, if you you don't want to be indicted by a Virginia special grand jury, then don't mishandle high-profile sexual assaults in county schools in 2021."
DungBeetle1983 t1_izzp63m wrote
Truly sound advice!
adawheel0 t1_izz4itk wrote
My wife was sexually assaulted in 8th grade and her notebook was found that detailed it. The teacher read it and turned it in and the principals suspended her for 5 days and nothing happened to the male student.
torpedoguy t1_izzzf9o wrote
Not surprised; they do the same thing with bullying, with death threats and robbery.
The entire system revolves around "teaching" kids to take what's done to them and that fighting back is the real violence.
Because the only thing abusers fear, is their victim fighting back effectively.
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Ed_Durr t1_j00av91 wrote
To summarize, the male student cross dresses without identifying as a woman and regularly uses the woman’s restroom. (According to some reports, he also uses neopronouns). In May of 2021, the rapist met with with a girl with whom he had previously had a consensual relationship. This time the girl said that she didn’t want to have sex, but he raped her regardless.
During the rape, a staff member entered the bathroom. The rapist made the girl standup and stay silent. The staff member saw that two people were in the stall (against school policy) but neither inquired into what they were doing or reported them to the school.
After the girl goes home and tells her father what happened, he confronts the principal and demands that they take action. State law required that the principal alert the police and inform the students and parents of the school that a sexual assault occurred. Breaking the law, the school board instead transferred the rapist to another high school in the district and stonewalled the father’s attempts at justice.
Here’s where this goes from a local crime story to national news.
At the same time all this was going on, the Loudin County school board was preparing to implement one of the most liberal transgender policies in the country. During the June school board meeting, a community member asked the board whether there had been any reported cases of assault or inappropriate behavior by a student using the wrong bathroom, to which the superintendent responded “no”.
The raped girl’s father, who was in the audience, erupted at this point. He was yelling at the board, calling them liars, and refused to sit down when the board told him he was out of order. He was then arrested for disorderly conduct. The video of him getting arrested (though not the context around it) went viral, and played a major role in AG Merrick Garland’s public letter stating that the DOJ was investigating parents who disrupted school board meetings.
Days later, the conservative news site The Daily Wire published a detailed investigative journalism report cataloging everything in this saga, the laws broken by the school board, and that the transferred rapist shortly after being moved raped another student. The fallout from this is considered a major reason why republican Glenn Youngkin won the governor’s race weeks later.
DungBeetle1983 t1_j00delp wrote
Damn. Thanks for the summary.
just_adequate_enough t1_j01e8t2 wrote
To add to that, the boy’s own grandmother said she was worried he would do it again because he seemed to have no emotions or remorse about his actions. His grandmother!
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affogato4two t1_izz25kf wrote
Yes. This is the same case.
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--TaCo-- t1_izyywlv wrote
Do schools have staff monitoring student clothes to permit entry to bathrooms? You realize anyone can walk into any unlocked bathroom regardless of what they are wearing.
DungBeetle1983 t1_izzored wrote
Certain individuals were trying to make the case that if the bathrooms weren't open to those weren't biologically male or female this wouldn't have happened. But like you said anyone can walk into an unlocked bathroom.
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--TaCo-- t1_izzq0uq wrote
Yea, I've seen loads of Fox "News" saying that this incident is part of the trans agenda when it's just some asshole that the schools should have turned in.
EDIT:oof all the anti-trans people are triggered.
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Gustopherus-the-2nd t1_j00k7ee wrote
Did you just blame the first victim for being fucking raped? She didn’t want to have sex and he forced her. It’s rape. Just because they had a previous relationship doesn’t make it ok.
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Gustopherus-the-2nd t1_j01kulf wrote
No, people get to say no to whenever and whatever and the other person should stop. There was a rape.
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Gustopherus-the-2nd t1_j03odxk wrote
Your comment was insinuating that it wasn’t as big of a deal because they agreed to meet. Maybe she agreed to meet and talk or kiss, it isn’t her fault he’s a rapist and couldn’t hear “no” for an answer.
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just_adequate_enough t1_j01ecgx wrote
You right, at the second school he was transferred to he assaulted another girl by pushing her into an empty classroom without anyone noticing. The kid is a predator.
crokinoleworld t1_j007ioi wrote
Check the local paper on this one if you don't want to go through the paywall https://www.loudountimes.com/news/cops_and_courts/updated-ex-lcps-superintendent-and-spokesman-indicted-in-grand-jury-probe-of-schools/article_0bca22b2-7a46-11ed-bd5a-4790a7044af8.html .
SpaceTabs t1_j01b54x wrote
This is going to be a textbook example of how to shake up politics going forward. The Loudoun administration walked right into this face first, Youngkin and Miyares will be having a field day with this for years. This should be a cautionary tale for schools like the one where the male teacher walks around wearing huge prosthetic tits. There's nothing good that will come from this.
Mischevouss t1_j01di2c wrote
Are denying the male teacher’s right to self expression and to dress accordingly
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Kierkin t1_j00ojmk wrote
Jesus Christ I ran a Cub Scout den with Ziegler for two years. Haven’t talked to him since he left the area for a job. Wow…
thought_first t1_izyrf9w wrote
> The indictments come a week after the same grand jury issued a scathing report criticizing Loudoun County schools and other officials for their handling of a pair of sexual assaults committed by a male student in May and October 2021 at two high schools. The second assault occurred after the student was transferred to a new high school.
I'll never understand why administrators will cover-up for criminals because they think that the truth is somehow the actual problem.
Put rapists in jail. Full stop.