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KerPop42 t1_j190cdh wrote

So that anyone doesn't misunderstand: bail let's you dodge jail, not prison. They would still have a court date it would be illegal for them to miss.

Also, American jails are in horrific condition even though the people they hold are only accused, not convicted

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SsiSsiSsiSsi t1_j195e7i wrote

Redditors are 100% for bail reform, until it’s someone they don’t like, then they want summary executions.

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avcloudy t1_j1d0wnb wrote

I don’t think it’s an inconsistent position. It’s a problem that poor people, without resources, are denied bail or required to submit to predatory terms to post bail. Simultaneously it’s a problem that the extremely rich, with resources to flee, are routinely granted bail.

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officerfett t1_j190rgx wrote

A sure way to avoid American jails, as well as prison is to not steal billions of dollars. Send all their privileged asses to county lockup.

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KerPop42 t1_j191qh8 wrote

It certainly helps, but the only sure way to avoid American jails is to not be accused by the police. People in jail are still legally innocent, but often have to deal with lack of heat or ac, and lack of medicine.

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swizzlemc2pots t1_j19c279 wrote

Love me some constant 68 degrees, lights always on, and an uncensored public toilet few feet away. Glorious

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KerPop42 t1_j19ebaw wrote

14 people have died this year alone from the conditions at Rikers Island. Waiting for trial. If you want photos, here they are. In the hallways, the stench burns your eyes.

The lights do not turn off. You have to drink water with your hands, and you are not provided soap. You have to share your 7 x 6 cell with 3 other people. There is only one bench, so you have to sleep on the ground. They give you plastic sheeting as blankets.

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cloud_coder OP t1_j195nht wrote

Yeah amazing how people don't get the justice system.

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