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PEVEI t1_j2t5w71 wrote

Reply to comment by hello_world_wide_web in Sam Bankman-Fried pleads not guilty to federal fraud charges in New York amidst renewed federal probe by fadufadu

He doesn’t really have grounds to push for a favorable deal, his co-conspirators already snapped them up. At this point he just has to plead not-guilty and hope that he can somehow undermine the government’s case.

He won’t be able to, but that’s his tuft of grass on the cliff side, the last thing he can grasp

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TheGrandExquisitor t1_j2tbjxr wrote

Also, didn't he confess to multiple felonies in multiple interviews with multiple outlets?

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PEVEI t1_j2tbu8l wrote

He certainly did, which was… different. I gather that he isn’t quite the towering genius he believes himself to be.

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TheGrandExquisitor t1_j2tce9t wrote

Especially since he has two parents who are law profs. Even my ass knows not to confess to crimes in public before even being charged.

Also, I wonder what his parents' liability is. He had a bunch of assets in their name.

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BadUncleBernie t1_j2tu5vb wrote

They should be charged as well. College professors putting up 200 million bail. Lol They were in on it.

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JDeegs t1_j2ua688 wrote

Sbf had petitioned the court to not release the identity of who paid his bail lol

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PEVEI t1_j2tcpuh wrote

I wouldn’t even try to guess, but I’d hate to be in their shoes right now. I think if the money ultimately came from fraud then the disgorgement process will include the parents’ assets at the very least.

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Tinkerballsack t1_j2uoddz wrote

He seems like a guy who is a result of growing up very privileged and never having been told no.

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SummerLover69 t1_j2wfow8 wrote

Apparently he wasn’t familiar with shut the fuck up friday.

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dwitman t1_j2u40ts wrote

> I gather that he isn’t quite the towering genius he believes himself to be.

Lot of that going around lately.

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TheWingus t1_j2uuxnr wrote

Oh my god that interview where he explained his business plan as;

“people will see all this money in the box, and more some will want to put money in the box”

So how is that not a scam?

“Maybe YOU see it as a scam…”

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Or something like that. The dude straight called him out saying, you’re providing nothing to your investors. The growth of your investors investments is predicated on more investors investing more!! And him just saying I disagree was incredible. I made some wrong financial moves in my life, but never something like that

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ButterPotatoHead t1_j2txzwp wrote

Well... confess? To felonies? He gave some details about what he did and didn't do, tried to distance himself from Alameda Research. He admitted that mistakes were made and that they didn't have good risk controls. But I wouldn't call anything that he said a confession.

Many of the charges he faces like fraud require intent, which means he said something that he knew was false or deliberately and intentionally misled someone. He certainly didn't say anything like that and this can be hard to prove.

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ZsMann t1_j2u9e61 wrote

Idk if you listened to all the Twitter spaces he did the weeks before his arrest... also deleting tweets etc

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ButterPotatoHead t1_j2wk9g7 wrote

SBF said he stepped down as CEO of Alameda two years ago and turned it over to the two people that are now his co-conspirators. I am sure this is his attempt to demonstrate distance between Alameda and FTX.

What are these "hundreds" of business entities? The press has mentioned 4 or 5.

I think the core issue is that the way that money was accounted for at FTX was a custom-written accounting system that they wrote, which didn't have nearly the necessary controls to keep track of different kinds of account or commingling of funds etc. Also it has been revealed that Alameda specifically had special treatment within the accounting system to have basically complete access to all assets in FTX which it used for all kinds of purposes.

But SBF will say that is Alameda's problem which he no longer runs. The co-conspirators will say that SBF orchestrated the whole thing. We'll see how that shakes out in court.

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ButterPotatoHead t1_j2yt93l wrote

Look you don't have to convince me. I think he's a liar that committed fraud and will go to jail. I'm just telling you what his defense is. Whether or not it legally holds water is up for him and his lawyers to decide.

All of these people were probably cohabitating and sleeping with one another and hanging out, so the idea that there was some kind of arm's length separation between a guy and his girlfriend who were CEO's of two related companies is kind of laughable. But we'll see.

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notaredditer13 t1_j2usr7m wrote

I tend to agree. Much of what he said is too non-specific to call it a true confession. But I bet the prosecution will still try and sautee him in it because of how bad it sounds.

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Aazadan t1_j2to4ei wrote

That's going to be real hard when his interview tour had him admit to all sorts of shit.

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JimLahey08 t1_j2u9z7m wrote

Talk about putting an image in my head with the grass on the cliff.

Sam is fucked, and crypto scammers need to stop their bullshit.

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Synapse82 t1_j2uwt2r wrote

>but that’s his tuft of grass on the cliff side, the last thing he can grasp

That’s a cool sentence I’ve never heard lol.

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Narrator2012 t1_j2wc3c8 wrote

I was gonna tell them a story about how you, Sydney Shaw, grassed him up

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sparktheworld t1_j2y0wra wrote

And “undermine the government” may very well be the outcome. Since some government officials are involved or connected to it.

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