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Icewear_Daddy t1_j34cpqf wrote

What are the odds that they'll release him back to the cartel again?

"Ovidio was briefly detained in the northern state of Sinaloa in October 2019 by security forces, but then quickly released because of violent retribution from his cartel"

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pokeybill t1_j34fwhg wrote

He was released in 2019 because police weren't expecting to catch him and didn't have backup to deal with the fallout.

This time it's the military and a larger operation - if they are smart he is far from Sinaloa at this point.

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pyrmale t1_j34mo88 wrote

Donny Trump said he's going down to Mexico to take care of all the cartels.

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SsurebreC t1_j34wi9r wrote

From the article:

> > The defense secretary, Luís Cresencio Sandoval, told reporters that Guzmán had been transferred to the Mexican capital after his capture by members of the army and national guard.

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Spectre_06 t1_j35dfwr wrote

I remember the videos on LiveLeak of Mexican Marines pulling up on cartel members in their cars, dragging them out and slitting their throats, just to leave them in the middle of said street.

Mexican Marines don't fuck around.

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Waste-Worth-1047 t1_j35r73u wrote

zero. it would be way too embarrassing and as mentioned the last time they got him it wasn't a raid and they didn't have the support to pull it off. they still have leverage as well. either call off the dogs and serve your time in mexico or you'll be in the cell block your father is at the supermax in the US painting your walls with your own poop.

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SysDym t1_j366qvb wrote

Look forward to watching this on Netflix Narcos.

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SpaceTabs t1_j36ddq0 wrote

Mexico goes to the helos and mini guns straight away now. They can strafe the compounds because they are fairly large and open. This was also done just south of Sinaloa in Nayarit a few years ago when the government turned against another drug lord.

This seems to be Mexico's MO now. Take bribes from the cartel until they get too powerful, then raid them with the marines or air force using mini guns. They also pit the cartels against each other because the police aren't very effective.

In the future, these cartels will probably spend less time and money on open compounds because of this and explosive-dropping drones.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/10/mexico-helicopter-gun-drug-cartel-leader-killed

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Rambos_Beard t1_j37llp7 wrote

We trained with them in 96 and 97 when they were starting to change their doctrine to being more active against drug cartels and I can vouch for that. One had a polaroid of him holding two heads in his hands of cartel guys he said chopped off with a machete. That was beyond bizarre for 22 year old me to see.

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coolluck33 t1_j37n98o wrote

If u don't kill the roaches when they first appear, then you'll never be rid of them...

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waiv t1_j37u5t1 wrote

That turned out to be a lie, they had an operation to arrest him back in 2019, they just botched it badly because they used his new "National Guard" to do it and they were inexperienced in these kind of operations. Now they used the Marines and they extracted him quickly, but the government failed to defend the city.

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MSD101 t1_j3ano1l wrote

We've been trying this for decades in the War on Drugs, and it just isn't an effective strategy. This isn't even an effective strategy fighting the Taliban for 20 years. Criminal organizations or insurgent groups will always have the manpower to continue their operations. A real solution to Cartels isn't a military one.

They only need land, poor people to take advantage of, a means of transportation, and demand. We have never been able to stem the flow of any of these things through force. Mexican cartels are powerful because the US demand for drugs is insane. Had we spent all this time and money doing research on drugs, having actual drug education programs (DARE is more akin to propaganda), and using when we know to legalize and decriminalize where we can, the cartels would be far less powerful.

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